Tuesday, October 17, 2006

The View From the Top

The top of what you ask? The height of World of Warcraft greatness.

A few weeks ago, a good friend of mine quit playing Warcraft. He was a council member on what is now one of the oldest guilds in the world, the type of position coveted by many of the 7 million people who play the game today, but which only a few ever get.

When he quit, I asked him if he would write a guest blog post about the experience. What follows is a cautionary tale about the pull an escape from reality can have on you.

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60 levels, 30+ epics, a few really good "real life" friends, a seat on the oldest and largest guild on our server's council, 70+ days "/played," and one "real" year later...

Mr. Yeager asked me to write this "guest blog" for him. I figured I should oblige him this request - it was none other than Mr. Yeager who first introduced me to (begged for me to buy, actually :-p) the World of Warcraft. It was the "perfect storm" for me; a time in my life when I was unemployed, living at my family's house far from my friends, and had just finished my engineering degree and was taking a little time to find a job. I had a lot of free time on my hands and WoW gave me a place to spend it.

This could be a many page epic tale, but I figure I'd give you the brief history and pertinent information. The guild Mr. Yeager got me into and with which I became an officer is the oldest and largest on the server I played on. It is around 18 months old and extremely well-versed in endgame instances. I was both the "mage class lead" and an officer. I have many very good friends I met through WoW (in real life - no kidding) and even have been "involved" with another councilor in real life (yes, I know, I'm weird for meeting girls through an online video game but honestly, ask Mr. Yeager, she's head and shoulders better than all the girls I met DJing, waiting tables, in college, and bartending at clubs in Philly). But I digress...

I just left WoW permanently. I was a leader in one of the largest and most respected guilds in the world, a well-equipped and well-versed mage, and considered myself to have many close friends in my guild. Why did I leave? Simple: Blizzard has created an alternate universe where we don't have to be ourselves when we don't want to be. From my vantage point as a guild decision maker, I've seen it destroy more families and friendships and take a huge toll on individuals than any drug on the market today, and that means a lot coming from an ex-club DJ.

It took a huge personal toll on me. To illustrate the impact it had, let's look at me one year later. When I started playing, I was working towards getting into the best shape of my life (and making good progress, too). Now a year later, I'm about 30 pounds heavier that I was back then, and it is not muscle. I had a lot of hobbies including DJing (which I was pretty accomplished at) and music as well as writing and martial arts. I haven't touched a record or my guitar for over a year and I think if I tried any Kung Fu my gut would throw my back out. Finally, and most significantly, I had a very satisfying social life before. My friends and I would go out and there were things to do every night of the week. Now a year later, I realize my true friends are the greatest people in the world because the fact I came out of my room, turned the lights on, and watched a movie with them still means something. They still are having a great time teasing me at my expense, however, which shows they still love me and they haven't changed.

These changes are miniscule, however, compared to what has happened in quite a few other people's lives. Some background... Blizzard created a game that you simply can not win. Not only that, the only way to "get better" is to play more and more. In order to progress, you have to farm your little heart out in one way or another: either weeks at a time PvPing to make your rank or weeks at a time getting materials for and "conquering" raid instances, or dungeons where you get "epic loot" (pixilated things that increase your abilities, therefore making you "better"). And what do you do after these mighty dungeons fall before you and your friend's wrath? Go back the next week (not sooner, Blizzard made sure you can only raid the best instances once a week) and do it again (imagine if Alexander the Great had to push across the Middle East every damn week).

What does this mean? Well, to our average "serious" player this equates to anywhere between 12 hours (for the casual and usually "useless" player) to honestly 10 hours a day, seven days a week for those "hardcore" gamers. During my stint, I was playing about 30 hours a week (and still finding it hard to keep up with my farming) and logging on during my work day in order to keep up with all the guild happenings and to do my scheduling and tracking for the raids. A lot of time went into the development of new policies which took our friendly and family-oriented guild further and further away from its roots but closer to the end goal. Honestly, what that end goal is I'm not totally sure - there is truly no end to the game and every time you feel like you're satisfied with your progress, another aspect of the game is revealed and, well, you just aren't as cool as you can be again.

There are three problems that arise from WoW: the time it requires to do anything "important" is astounding, it gives people a false sense of accomplishment, and when you're a leader, and get wrapped up in it, no matter how much you care or want people to care, you're doing the wrong thing.

First off, let's go back to the time it takes to accomplish anything in the game. To really be successful, you need to at least invest 12 hours a week, and that is bare minimum. From a leadership perspective, that 12 hours would be laughed at. That's the guy who comes unprepared to raid and has to leave half way through because he has work in the morning or is going out or some other thing that shows "lack of commitment". To the extreme there is the guildie who is always on and ready to help. The "good guildie" who plays about 10 hours a day and seven days a week. Yes, that's almost two full-time jobs. Funny, no one ever asks any questions, though.

The worst though are the people you know have time commitments. People with families and significant others. I am not one to judge a person's situation, but when a father/husband plays a video game all night long, seven days a week, after getting home from work, very involved instances that soak up hours and require concentration, it makes me queasy that I encouraged that. Others include the kids you know aren't doing their homework and confide in you they are failing out of high school or college but don't want to miss their chance at loot, the long-term girl/boyfriend who is skipping out on a date (or their anniversary - I've seen it) to play (and in some cases flirt constantly), the professional taking yet another day off from work to farm mats or grind their reputations up with in-game factions to get "valuable" quest rewards, etc... I'm not one to tell people how to spend their time, but it gets ridiculous when you take a step back.

The game also provides people with a false sense of security, accomplishment, and purpose. Anyone can be a superhero here if they have the time to put in. Not only that, a few times I've seen this breed the "rockstar" personality in people who have no confidence at all in real life. Don't get me wrong, building confidence is a good thing and something, if honed appropriately, the game can do very right. But in more than a few cases, very immature people with bad attitudes are catered to (even after insulting or degrading others "in public") because they are "better" than the rest. Usually this means they played a lot more and have better gear. I'd really hate to see how this "I'm better than you attitude" plays out in real life where it means jack how epic your loot is - when you say the wrong thing to the wrong person it's going to have repercussions and you can't just log out to avoid the effects of your actions.

And people put everything on the line for these accomplishments with which they associate much value. I know of children and spouses being forced to play and grind for their parents, threats of divorce, rampant neglect, failing grades in school, and thousands of dollars spent on "outsourcing" foreign help. For what, you ask? Honor. The desire to be the best for at least one week. To get the best loot in the game. What do these "heroes" receive? Why, cheers and accolades of course as they parade along in their new shiny gear... which is obsolete the first time they step into one of the premier instances. The accomplishment and sacrifice itself are meaningless a few days later. Then it's usually off to the races again.

Finally, when you're a leader there is a call (or more appropriately a demand) for success. Usually those you represent want to keep progressing. They want to keep improving. They want more access to the best things. It is on you to provide it. In my experience, when you fail to progress fast enough, waves ripple throughout the guild and people become dissatisfied. It's your fault, no matter what. Everything you've done to keep things fair and provide for everyone does not mean a damn thing. A few will stand up for you, but when you have 150 people who all want 150 different things, you end up listening to 150 voices complaining about the job you're doing. This volunteer job usually takes at least 10 extra hours a week (on top of regular playing). Towards the end of my year of service, I apparently couldn't do anything right with my class. I had to rotate people to make sure everyone was getting a fair shot. I wrote actual mathematical proofs the allowed for fair and effective (yes, both) raid distribution according to efficiency, speed, and guild class population. I even rotated myself more than any other class member. People still took it upon themselves to tell me what I was doing wrong (constantly) and how their way was more fair (usually for them).

The thing that kicked me in the ass more than anything else was I really cared if my guildies were getting what they wanted out of the experience. I truly thought my efforts would make them happy. I wanted to make a difference to them. The greedy and socially phobic high school kid I thought I could help through the game, all of the couples (both married and not) who were falling apart because of the game I thought I could rescue, the girl who was deeply wounded by a guy who left her for the game but was herself addicted I thought I could save, not to mention a host of others, I thought my efforts were helping. Then it hit me like a ton of bricks: I was providing them with an escape from their problems and nurturing the very thing that was holding them back. Oh yeah, it hit me like a ton of bricks after I had changed so much and lost enough of myself that the most wonderful girl I ever met broke up with me.

I remember clearly after fumbling around life for a few weeks that I dragged myself into the bathroom to get ready for work. I was tired because I was up until close to 2 AM raiding. Every week I read though email or I would run into one of my "real" friends and I'd hear "Andy, what's up, I haven't seen you in a while." I looked in the mirror and in a cinemaesque turn of events and a biblical moment of clarity, told myself "I haven't seen me in a while either."

That did it. I wanted to do the things I wanted to do again and be with the people who appreciated me even if I abandoned them for a year and sucked to high heaven as a friend. The prodigal son returned and my friends were happy. The best advice I got was from the girl who dumped me for being a jackass (and after I decided to really quit and be "myself again" became one of, if not my best friend in the entire world), who said "your real friends like you even when you screw up." It's true.

Funny side note was the reaction I got from the guild that I spent a year pouring my heart and soul into. I made my post in the guild forums saying I was leaving (half of it RPing - something that doesn't happen after you start raiding) and that it was time for me to move on. Three days later I didn't exist any more. The machine kept on moving without this gear. A few people asked me over email (and when I logged on to clean out the old bank) when I was coming back (I'm not going to). There are a few others I keep in contact with and am planning on going to visit sooner or later so I can hang out in person and they can finally meet me. But in the end being forgotten about so soon after still left a bittersweet taste. But one that was a lot easier to swallow than the one I chugged down every day for the better part of a year.

Don't get me wrong, WoW did a lot of things right. At times it was a fun game that allowed me to keep in contact with friends who lived far away. More importantly it introduced me to some of the best real life friends I've ever met. However, it did take an undeniable toll on me and is taking a far greater one on many, many people when taken too far.

Update: Follow up to this here, with clarifications on authorship and some of the more interesting/bizarre comments.

Update 2: For an alternative, positive viewpoint on the game written by the person who told the author to quit, please go here.

Finally, if you'd like to read more about this, I can't recommend the book Game Addiction: The Experience and The Effects by Neils Clark enough. It is a thoroughly researched and balanced piece of work that really examines this issue from all angles. It includes discussions with the writers of both blog posts on this topic.

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Anonymous said...

It seems to me that the people who more or less agree with the original poster (I am addicted, I was addicted, thanks for helping me not be addicted, my SO is/was addicted, congrats on getting out of your addiction, here's how to get out of your addiction) outnumber the naysayers (you weren't addicted you're just a loser, I'm not addicted) about three to one. I've spent a few hours reading comments, which strikes me as meta-lossage (wasting time reading about wasting time) -- I don't have time to count them up, but am idly curious about actual numbers. I wonder if there's some academic credit for somebody in there?

Anonymous said...

I can't help but take issue with the fact that the writer never takes any responsibility for making the decision to play the game.

-Pete, Half Moon Bay

Anonymous said...

I must say there is much truth in what you said. But one thing which seems to escape many peoeple is - nobody is holding a gun to your head. Why not ask yourself the hard question 'why did YOU let yourself get drawn in so much?'. WoW didnt make you fat, you did. Being a person that plays in or around 60 hours per week, I do appreciate how addictive the game is. But this doesnt stop me from seeing my friends from time to time (Of course, not nearly as much as I would have before playing WoW). Who is to say whether thats right or wrong? I enjoy my time in WoW, if I want to spend most of my free time on it its my decision. Whether or not when the day comes that I decide to quit I think to myself, god that was a real time sink or not, I cant answer til I get to that point - but what I do know is, I wont turn around and blame the game for making me fat. I choose what I eat, I choose how much exercise I do, I choose how much time spent with friends outside of WoW and I choose how much time I play WoW.

And just throwing this on the end here - it really bugs me when I see peoeple say things like "The game has no end" in an evil sense o.O! So what? Thats how MMO's are made... your paying monthly for a reason, its designed to be massive... why would u subscribe and dump money into it if it was bang-hit-60-game-over-bye-now.

If you feel the game is doing your RL harm, cut down/quit... it is as simple as that.

GL in whatever you may do...

Anonymous said...

I'm somewhat torn between what this guy is saying and what some of the naysayers are saying. I can understand that something is addictive, and that people are quitting. However, this DOESN'T mean that everyone is experiencing this affliction the same way.

it just seems like he's a little too condescending; as if he was the only person to go through and realize this stuff. eq has been around for something like 10 years which displays the exact same futility in gaming an rpg. rpg's don't HAVE endings, they have OUTLETS! people can get wrapped up in this damn game...and i think it's great to have an awareness of it. however, i feel like he should maybe start a program (Warcraftaholics anonymous?) rather than suppose that everyone who plays this game is doing it for the wrong reasons.

i never played wow because i know it's a carebear community with rampant immaturity at its core. however, i do play hours and hours of games per week with a clan/guild/team of 14 that make life just a little more fun. it provides just another dynamic to hang out with people when it's rainy out, or when you just need to relax.

i have a wife, and i can understand the balance you have to make in order to accomodate people in game and out of game. perhaps all you people should learn to harness your self-control (as has been said by many before me) rather than create a witch-burning. Learn to moderate yourselves! I mean, it's much easier to quit something instead of teaching yourself how to control it, is it not?

Insofar as his feelings toward people who still play, i feel like he just wants some unfounded sympathy from his previous guildies. I mean, of COURSE you not going to be thought about all the time-you're gone! that doesn't mean that you've been wiped from peoples' memories entirely. I haven't experienced a clan of 150 in quite a long time (about 7 years now?) but maybe you all can learn something about a mature community by creating one filled with people you know and like, not just people who are level 60 for more bodies for these raids.

addiction is addiction, sure, but you have to learn to channel this stuff. I know you can do it. But please, please, don't write a post that is meant to condemn all that play it.

GL and HF

[H]karmu

Anonymous said...

Very well written. I play WoW a lot and am in a great guild and play two lvl 60's (Warrior and Rogue). I have tasted on some of the things you mentioned and I agree that WoW are able to take totally control over your life, due to that you have to spend so much time to be better. I think I've played about 75 days since I started (time logged in, that is). And I actually have thought of quitting more than once, but the game has something that drag me back into it. So atm I'm still a active player (one of the worst in my guild - that counts about 120 people, mostly from the UK). Anyway mate; I will seriously think of what you wrote in your blogg and in the end of that thinking maybe stop playing this game... Again; Thanks a lot for sharing your experience with us!
:-))

Anonymous said...

It was a really interesting read, thankyou.

After playing the game since June 2005 and finally quitting in July 06' i think i have changed as a person. Not in some melodramtic, hippy sence, but i think playing 6 hours + a day...for about 1 year of your life really does have a negative impact on your mind.
I think it's a really difficult thing to balance between how much of it is your own responsibility and how much the game promotes you to spend insane amounts of time online.
Anyone can say, "it's your own fault", for being addicted or whatever, or have a gametime that spirals up to bordeline craziness. I think those that say this, don't really have a clue about why people can find it so difficult to control.
WoW is probably the greatest way to escape from reality i know of. You don't have to smoke pot or get bladdered, and you can do it in the comfort of your own room. At my peak in the game i was playing 7hrs + a day, i had pretty much screwed my college grades and future up, and my RL friends were getting bored with my erratic behaviour - sometimes happy, sometimes really down and quiet.
Even after quitting i'm still tempted to re-open my account, but i won't.
Those with the "addiction" problems tend to be the hardcore lvl 60 raiders - i was one of them i guess. It's very easy to say the individual is to blame but after a few months of raiding with the same 39 other people, you genuinely think you are letting them down if you 'miss' an instance run. The fact its an online game and you compete against other real people for every scrap is the main issue i think.

Anonymous said...

There are some sorry ass people playing these games.

I’m sure your story is not unique. I am sure there are plenty like yourself who are “Addicted” to the game. But just like any addiction it is on you to correct it; you blame all your woes on the game – when it was you who was ultimately responsible for the condition of your life. I play WoW and I even raid. But I will never or could never get to the same spot as you describe.

Some of the people you describe in your post are truly pathetic. Losing jobs, girlfriends, wives – forcing their children to play the game – hahaha.

Anonymous said...

I'm commenting on the discussion on whether WoW is merely a safe game or a potential hazard to people. Many of the people saying that WoW is harmful may be warning people and commenting on how dangerous it can be. I know many people thinking about their gaming after reading this blog. Yes. I also agree that one's real life issues and problems will be major factors on whether they get addicted to it or play it casually. However, isn't that the same thing with any other harmful addictions in life? Some of you say that it might actually help you realize your personal problems rather than have a physical drug do it. Of course, a drug is worse than a computer game. But that shouldn't discredit the potential harmful effects of WoW. Yes. Those of you who can maintain a casual gaming experience while maintaining a fulfillng life have your lives in order or are very lucky. However, many people aren't so lucky. Can't you see that this game is an issue for people when countless discussions and incidents regarding this game are present? This internet blog isn't very old; yet has 837 comments as of now. "Whine whine.." "People are displacing their blame on a game." They have to blame themselves. But I'm pretty sure that most of you can truthfully agree that this game has caused a major problem with our society in the past year or so. Do you tell someone that has an eating disorder to quit whining and learn to live normally? Are you so cruel in real life that you laugh in the face of a drug addict? It's just another problem in our society where people have to figure themselves out while being cautious of this game. I'm definitely not saying that this game should not exist. This article appears to merely comment on the potential dangers of this game. This blog might help many WoW addicts to face their problems and get their lives in order. This person shared his embarrassing, personal issues with the public in order to shed more light on the issue and to help some people. Please. If you can maintain playing this game and lead a healthy life or play this game with your life in order; you're fortunate and please keep doing what you're doing. However, I don't think it's very responsible to insult or belittle the people who share this problem and are bearing themselves to the topic.

Anonymous said...

Wow, You act like WoW is a gruelign game that takes years to progress in, Try everquest, being a whiney little bitch wont get you anywhere in that game. If you want a real addiction try crack. Stop complaining.

Anonymous said...

"Wow, You act like WoW is a gruelign game that takes years to progress in, Try everquest, being a whiney little bitch wont get you anywhere in that game. If you want a real addiction try crack. Stop complaining."

- You're a credit to the human race...

Anonymous said...

wow is just sad.
Its made for children and beeing a parent myself i wouldnt allow my children to waste there time on something as dumb as wow is. There is no learning factor or anything which could help a child to grow up decently.

i mean...i cant understand what this is all about anyway.
im playing mmorpgs since the beginning in 1996.
and wow is actually the worst mmorpg which has been ever made. there is aboslutely no storyline or things to discover in the gameworld. The players are imprisioned and there is absolutely no freedom of their acting.
there is NO competition at all. You dont need any skills or brain to play the game.
It all depends on the amount of time you spend to lvl and equip. And even the programmed tasks you got to fullfill are modest and mindless.

Even if you are a leader of a huge guild you have absolutely no influence to the gameworld, its inhabitants or its storyline.
A political server-storyline is nonexistant in WoW.

A good mmorpg is about politics and guilds and about messing your "reallife"-skills with others in a virtual world with an ongoing storyline. These worlds really allow you to build a character which actions clearly define if he is f.e. evil or good. These worlds emerge heroes and the players itself build up the environment in which they play. In Wow its all predefined by the developers. The players are replaceable at any time.

The keywords which allow a mmorpg to be what its meant to be (ultima online f.e.) are:
-involving playerskill (the need to train your motoric and mental skills in order to compete and NOT just who spends more time to get the better equip)
-free pvp (aka no safezones or "battlegrounds". this forces the players to take their "virtual life" serious; meaning that they have to watch at their environment and be present to it all the time they are logged into it)
-the possibility to change the gameworld(to build cities and kingdoms)
-a decent risk/reward system (aka full loot) which makes you THINK about WHAT you do WHEN, WHERE and HOW. Its your decision which risk you are going to take to get a reward and based on your decision you will be able to either profit from it or to deal with consequences. responsability and accountability are the keywords here

and last but not least....
-no timewasting lvl and farming threadmills in order to keep the players busy and to divert them from reaching THEIR GOAL.


believe it or not but you can be a kingdoms leader, having influence in the gameworld and the virtual life of thousands of players by only spending 1-2 hours daily. games like f.e. ultima online, neocron and shadowbane proved that mmorpgs arent meant to be singleplayergames you can play together with your friends. Calling WoW a multiplayergame is a disgrace for all the multiplayer-online games out there, no matter which genre.

Mmorpgs are meant to be real simulations of real humans living in a virtual world. Including everything which you are facing in the real world too -mainly the freedom to express yourself and to bring in your motoric and mental skills.
Its a SPORT/HOBBY involving your political and social skills. Aswell as your ability to adept to the actual situation of the character you play and to act accordingly to what YOU think is best.

www.darkfallonline.com

Anonymous said...

Thanks for the read here. I actually have never been addicted to a game like this but I know a friend who has. Actually addicted to MU. Only a couple months ago the game loosened its hold on him. He still plays but not nearly as much.
He was playing the game about 120 hours a week, sometimes over 2 computers. This went on for nearly 2 years. He would avoid coming out, would try to get out of going on holidays to play the game and would even skip school. I noticed this as even a more serious addiction then my smoking habits (cigarettes that is). Though its not as though people are going to get lung cancer from gaming they can still cop major problems, even death from gaming and it is a real problem that just seems to be overlooked.
Thanks for the read it was really good to see someone else letting go of something that is really just pointless and coming back to do stuff that will actually make a difference in life.

Anonymous said...

addiction can apply to the over use of just about anything. Warcraft just like many other games is very popular and can become very addictive. the point is that not only drugs are addictive but other things such as warcraft are as well.

Anonymous said...

I never picked up the game, to me it seemed like everyone and everything associated with the game is utter crap.


Guess I was right.

Anonymous said...

So much truth written here but I think the part about how they forget your name in 3 days is the most hit-home part. They act like they're your friends and give you that "family" bs crap. They aren't your family. Families don't forget who you are in 3 days. Families don't put pixels before their blood.

It would probably be a good game but the people in it suck. In the end it was the people that made me quit. They were just too out for themselves and it made me sick to even know them or be around them.

One thing I disagree with. It's not what the game does to people. It's what people do to a game that kills it. They show their true colors in here and it's not pretty. I'm glad to have left them behind. They were NEVER my friends!

I was on the Malfurion server. I never saw such a bunch of low lifes ever. I got out in July and I'm never going back again. I've seen everything from punk kids, failing parents and doctors in this game act like total retards.

They may act like they forgot you but if you really want to piss them off, quit. Nothing pisses them off worse then someone who won't help feed their egos.

Anonymous said...

" I play WoW and I even raid. But I will never or could never get to the same spot as you describe."

Denial is a very dangerous state of mind.

Anonymous said...

Screwing over people for virtual items that don't exist is what makes this entire game a waste of time. Attitudes abound in here for the chance to show off in front of some stranger.

I haven't logged on that game in over a month. Just didn't feel like it one day and haven't gone back since. I think there just comes a time when you wake up one day and decide not to go to work, because you don't have to and boy did that feel GOOD! There's nothing like losing a job you never got paid for and that's really how you gotta look at it when it gets to the point it did for me. Thankless jerks who will now have to find some other sap to make them feel special. I won't be there for it.

Anonymous said...

I know everyone has their thing that makes them quit. For me it was all those stupid sayings all the STUPID people would copy over and over. Like:

"So and so is having my babies!"

"Cry more noob"

"whine whine whine"

"QQQ"

God they were such assholes! I would NEVER be friends with them in real life ever, so why the hell do I want to spend hours a day with them on a computer? I don't! I feel sorry for the people going out with them or worse, married to them.

Anonymous said...

^^^

Actually I think the "GET A LIFE!" insult is the best self-insult they copy all the time. When one has no life, it's pretty funny to watch them tell everyone else to get one. lol

I went back to school in September and didn't take my CD's on purpose. The only internet I even use is on campus. Worked for me. Anyone who says they get good grades and is in a raiding guild is pretty much in denial. Can't be done.

Dave

Anonymous said...

Another fat loser with no self control leaves his video-game addiction for some equally pointless pursuit in his pointless life.

Anonymous said...

This blog is just sad. I myself play WoW and I just can never understand how people can let it get like that. I work out everyday, have a girlfriend, a job, I go out on the weekends and I play WoW. Am I the best geared person? No. I have some epics here and there. But seriously, have some friggin' self control. RL > WoW any day of the week.

Anonymous said...

To the anon above, you're really full of it if you expect players to believe you. We all know there is no one in that game that doesn't epeen all day long about how great they are, just as you are apparently doing by stating how great your life is. At least these people admit it. You're the one who is sad.

Anonymous said...

While the OP may have some valid points, I don't compare WOW problems with drug addiction. Drug addiction has withdrawls. You don't get that not playing a game. Well maybe mental ones but you did that to yourself.

Second point is, why do people get themselves so messed up in sorry guilds that expect their 90 hour a week blood? Again, your fault for letting that happen. MMO's have been around long enough that statistics will tell you that those who do that type of grind fade out quick and quit suddenly like the OP and others here admit to doing.

These types of compulsion issues don't need a shrink. They clearly say you don't have the self-esteem required to be satisfied with what you have. And if you don't have that in a game, you never had it in life. Quitting the game solves nothing, except maybe you'll admit that's the real problem with yourself and correct it.

So to the shrink that thinks he/she is going to advertise this point (and make money off of it for the sake of "study"), I'm going to point out you're full of it if you want to blame the game industry. Go back to his childhood and dig if you want, but you don't know what you're talking about if you think you're going to exploit gaming instead of the fact that these people NEED recognition. That's the real problem here. WOW is just the symptom.

Anonymous said...

Kudos OP.

and secondly, Why is there flaming? No one was attacked, if you feel like this is an attack on you... maybe you should rethink YOUR actions in WoW.

Anonymous said...

Addiction is only one problem here!

If you are part of a Guild there is also pressure to advance or be kicked out. I am part of a guild who is weeding out the noobs, so they can make room for better players who spend a lot more time playing. I am afraid Ill be kicked out at anytime for not raiding enough or messing up on a raid. They have kicked many members already and some have even left from the pressure. The people are good people, but they forgot the importance of keeping it fun and respecting others RL!

I couldn't imagine playing WoW without being in a good guild.

Also Blizzard is at fault for jumping on the bandwagon to create a game they already know can ruin lives!

Its all about money and the lack of caring about anyone else!

I am not addicted to anything else and never had a problem with drugs or alcohol.

Anonymous said...

ok so I play WoW... a lot, but then I enjoy it, and yes I suppose I'm one of the *good guildies* in that my main enjoyment in the game is helping others, and no I dont play 10 hours a day, more like 6, but the point is I and I alone CHOOSE to play, I dont blame Wow for putting it there, I'm all grown up and make my own decisions, maybe the author of the original blog should look more to himself rather than try and apportion blame for all the things that went wrong in his life on Blizzard ? that said however, I hope he has a happy and prosperous life, and if he put as much effort as he did into this blog, into the girl he lost, he may just get her back ?

Anonymous said...

I actually lost my husband to Everquest. But it wasn't the game, it was him. We had a handicapped daughter and when she was born he bailed on life. Then he started cheating, so i got online with him to maybe.. i dont know, make him more interested. That didn't work. Instead, i found i was better at the game and I got addicted. there were many long nights of raiding holding my daughter, who often would not sleep through her pain unless i held her. The end result...

I kicked him out. He lost us all, his wife, kids, and the respect of his family. I see online gaming as a double edged sword.

Bad things - it encourages cheating, fosters dishonesty and lets terrible relationships linger past their due date, because of the ability to wallow in denial. The game is a fantastic playground for online predators (10 year old boy was kidnapped from his parents, a close freind of mine, by a crazy woman who convinced him she would be a better mom. she got caught, but scared us to death) but if you have an addict mentality this can have you lose your job, health, and family.

HOWEVER.. i can't say i wouldn't play it again. I did get strong enough through freinds to kick the ass out, and i am dating a man from the game. Its going on 2 years now. the first thing we noticed... once we found eachother we have utterly no desire to play anything, we are busy enjoying everyone.

Someone once said "i never met a woman who played that was in a happy relationship with someone that didnt play"

neither have i.

Anonymous said...

Well let me be the first woman who just got married and still plays an online game and my husband never liked them.

Where do you come up with this crap that the only females who play are in sad relationships? I'll have you know we couldn't be happier, just bought our first house and when we have kids, THEN I'll quit. Until then, we're very happy, thank you very much Ms. Uninformed. I would think you had enough sense to get your ass off the computer with a sick child instead of sitting her on your lap. GEEZ!

Anonymous said...

Interesting article, though I disagree.
You can't blame the game, it is just like anything else in the world...a product. The problem lies in addictive personalities. I've seen people addicted to making rubber band balls...why? because they have to have some sort of obsession in their lives constantly.
The problem with losing friends, loved ones, and "valuable" time is in a person's lacking ability to accept blame. "Oh my god! I'm 50 lbs over weight, my gf dumped me, i got fired and i live in my mom's basement.../wrist! It's all blizzard's fault!" No.
No.
Oh yea...no.

It's your own fatass uselessness that landed you in that situation, i don't recall a blizzard employee holding me at gunpoint and if you thinking placing blame on the game and quitting is going to change anything, it isn't, because you know what? A few years/months from now...you're going to find a new World of Warcraft, something to replace a void that you refuse to take responisibility for. GO on, find your next object of blame.

Anonymous said...

I have recently gotten out of treatment for alcoholism. I know that I am different than people who don't have my disease of addiction. I don't want to go back to prohibition, but I don't drink.

It's the same thing. I liked drinking to pass out to get out of my head, the writer used WoW. You can consider yourself addicted to a behavior(whether that is shooting dope, gambling, exercising, whatever) if you continue to do the behavior in the face of increasingly bad consequences.

I was in treatment w/ someone who was an addicter gamer and it's just as real of an addiction as mine.

My 2c.

Anonymous said...

(added to previous post).

It is my fault that I developed my alcohol addiction and it's my fault that I did the behaviors that led me into treatment. However, if I were to say that mere self-control was enough to drink responsibly, I wouldn't have a DWI. I remain abstinent from alcohol as I hope the writer does from online games, b/c it will keep the addiction at bay. The first step is admitting a problem, the second step is removing the addicting behavior / substance from your life. If you have trouble doing it, check out a 12-step meetings. They have them for everything and can help an addict (of anything) find a solution.

Anonymous said...

What's to get addicted to? Ask yourself that first before you go blaming a game on your problems.

WoW is nothing but a bunch of stupid ass people running around trying to be a bigshot... or... a bunch of people oblivious to pvp and server firsts shooting the breeze with each other like a chat channel (like there aren't enough people already spending countless hours on myspace?)

You can single out WoW all you want, but the bottom line here is, you got "hooked" because you tried to play the bigshot. There's no other reason for it. If your goals weren't set so high, you wouldn't have this problem. You hide behind scapecoats like games and "needing to escape from reality" like your lives are a torture chamber otherwise while doing nothing to change the miserableness you complain of.

"Oh, but it was a difficult time in my life and WoW helped me", you cry! BS! Grow a spine and some balls, read the news about some poor kid in timbuktu starving to death and maybe you'll get over feeling oh so sorry for yourselves!

You're spoiled little idiots who have no discipline and now want an excuse, so let's all blame WoW. Yeah, that's it! It was all the GAME's fault! It had nothing to do with the fact that you're a coward, lazy a leech of society.

You may want to change that.

WoW is an easy game to level to 60 in your leisure time. You could have had fun if you were satisfied with that and then turned it off. You could have even done the whole game if people worked together, but 2 days in that place would prove to ANYONE that's not possible. Why you stayed past the level 60 leisure playing phase, was a product of your own ego. It was ALL in your head and you know it. You were gonna be top dog and to hell with anything and everyone else. That's the truth of it. Admit THAT instead of blameful excuses.

Anonymous said...

Good thing I solo when I feel like it and turn it off. That game is good for putting me to sleep.

When someone said this blog was pure hysterics, he wasn't kidding!

About the only point that was worth reading is the guy who said that no one told you had to play elitist king of the hill and ruin your life over it. Was it really going to kill you or give you the shakes if you didn't get epics? Silly people!

Anonymous said...

I understand the addiction of a game like this. I think that the post is somewhat disingenuous though, Blizzard does not make you do anything, you choose to do it. I know that casuals are considered subhuman in these games, not worth the time or effort to group with because they are unclean by the virtue that they do not spend 30 hours a week in BGs or raiding MC every time the timer resets. I laugh every time someone calls me a noob because Ive not yet seen Onyxia. Fair enough, I'm a noob, but I'm not on the internet complaining about how a GAME ruined my life - I'm playing the game when I have time and the inclination and more importantly, it hasn't become a second job for me. You chose to lock yourself away, you chose to focus all of your energy on this persuit and you chose when to get out of it. Don't hate the players or the creators, they provided you with entertainment. The fact that you could not shake yourself free of it's grip is an addiction that is ultimately on your shoulders, no one elses.

Responsibility for your actions, try it sometime. It will make you feel like an adult.

Anonymous said...

This is why I stay away from raiding guilds. You can do pvp battlegrounds anytime you want that only take a few minutes to complete. You can go back for another or do RL stuff. BGs don't interfere with life and you get good stuff after some time but you don't have to worry about 10 hours worth of time to invest a night.

Most raiding guilds think they own you and if you're that stupid to pay money to allow someone else to tell you what to do, then I don't know what to say, except how old are you?

I guess I'm glad I'm this obstinate type person who doesn't take kindly to ANYONE telling me I must indulge in a hobby THEIR way.

Sure, raiding guilds all try that crap. They try to tell you da RULES but come on, whose money is it you're spending? Are they paying for your time? No. So what right does some strange have to tell you that you MUST do it their way just because they paid 10 silver for a stupid guild tag.

After Everquest, which was the only MMO people really knew of the times, people realized a stupid game is NOT worth this type of time investment and WoW offered them a chance to have fun and not put up with that anymore.

WHY do you people insist on putting yourselves through that AGAIN when you simply don't have to boggles my mind!

It will take you 6 months of a few hours a week to have some playtime for yourself and then move on. WTF? Make another character if you're that bored and still want something to do. But my LORD how you got yourselves so into the soap-opera drama of it is really a personal problem in my eyes.

You will NEVER meet these people in real life. You owe them NOTHING! They are NOT your family!

You took it to a level it was never intended to be.

Anonymous said...

Hey its me again, the kid from wasting his time on Runescape. I would like to add that this story is not only for 1 or 2 or 3 people, it is the same story for thousands of people from hundreds of different games. If you are a hardcore gamer, i suggest you hang out with your friends and play video games in your retirement. In you retirement you will have money, and have reached most goals in your life. You wont have to worry about wasting anymore of your life because you will have done mostly everything, and by then video games will be a whole different experience. For example they might have a highly improved eye toy, or even video game arcades where it will be like a giant laser tag arena, but instead of laser tag it will be your favorite video game.
So take my advice and please don't waste your life now!

Anonymous said...

I just happened to be reading some info off a gaming site - when I came across this link. I figured that there would be some worthwhile info to glean out of the post. After reading through the first few paragraphs - I nearly fell asleep from boredom. The post drones on and on and on - making it almost seem like the game was single handedly responsible for the annihlation of what folks would call a "life". Last I checked - the game was designed as a form of entertainment. The game didn't twist your arm and force you to play it; the game didn't make you choose the decisions you did; the game didn't make you give up the time invested in it - when you could have been doing something like exercising and spending tiem with friends and family; yet in spite of that - you almost make it seem and sound like it was responsible for all that because it somehow brainwashed you. Get a grip! It's a game! It's not meant to be stressful - it's a form of entertainment! It's not meant to be all encompassing where nothing else exists - it's a form of entertainment! It's not meant to replace reality - it's a form of entertainment! Get the point? It's a form of entertainment. Next thing you know - you'll be jumping on the bandwagon and be saying "It was music and movie violence that made me do it!" Take some responsibility and admit the real issue - you lack self control and you let it become all encompassing where nothing else existed; all you wanted to do was play, play, play, play.. You let it run you - and because of it - everything else suffered because of it. Reality check... again - it's a game - a form of entertainment. If we're going to place blame; point fingers and lay accusations - we need to ensure we're placing it where it really belongs.

Anonymous said...

I'm sure that there were absolutely NO personal choices made in there. I'm sure the game made you do it all. It brainwashed you so that you wanted to do nothing but sit in front of the monitor and stuff your face with twinkies, chips and hotpockets. And I'm sure that it forced you to wash it down with two or three bottles of Mountain Dew, Coke or Pepsi. I'm sure the game forced you to give up your personal life - to abandon your friends, family and your significant other(s). Matter of fact - I bet the game called up your boss and told him, "Hey - so and so isn't really sick - he's at home playing Warcraft". I'm sure it was also the game that forced you to give up all your future endeavors and dreams - to give up everything to play it. Matter of fact - that very same game forced you to register your personal information and provide it with a credit card - just so it could brain wash you further to do nothing but play it. I'm sure it had absolutely nothing to do with having no self control; no life; no friends; and it most definately would have absolutely nothing at all to do with the fact that you had personal issues you just couldn't deal with in real life - so much so that you had to play a video game to escape the reality of how much you truly hated your life.



Anyone else other than me think this was a bit rediculous?

Anonymous said...

I think this blog is totally ridiculous, yes!

You know what I really think? I think it's a ploy to sue Blizzard for some money.

I can't wait for the attorney commercials on this one:

"Have you been addicted to online games? Call 1-800-LAWYER now and we'll get you the compensation you DESERVE!"

Anonymous said...

I think it was that guy who thinks video games are evil who wrote this. It's all just a ploy. Make up some bullshit that someone got killed or near to it and it always catches Congress' eyes. Even though I'm rolling mine if this guy is for real and he's that much of an idiot.

You DID make a conscious choice to turn that computer on everyday, didn't you? Maybe even 10x a day from the sounds of it.

Or you really expect us to believe you were and those other wackos are possessed now and couldn't help it? hahhaha

Anonymous said...

My Grandmother used to think the telephone was evil. And the tv. She wouldn't even use the washing machine! She did all her clothes by hand. Anything that was technology she didn't understand, she felt the world was going to be corrupted by it.

I guess the moral here is: If you think you're going to be corrupted because you have no self-control, don't use it. But at least realize that everyone in the world isn't as easily led as you were. Maybe some people are, but I certainly don't see millions of people who are subscribed to that game screaming for "addiction" help. I don't see parents picketing Blizzard's lawn to get their kids back from the Azeroth that kidnapped them.

You just took it wayyyy too far and that's really only your own fault. You knew better, come on now.

Try a little self-reflection and truth. Too much of a good thing is BAD for you! It's not even that great of a hobby to get that excited over! It's fun but it's not the be all and end all of entertainment, that's for sure.

BTW, I play on weekends and not even every weekend. Mostly in the cold months when there's nothing to do as an alternative to tv. I don't do the raiding guild scene. I think those people are lacking any sense of self-worth. At least the ones who demand xxx hours a week of people's time. How stupid!

During the week I have to work 10 hours a day and the commute is FOUR hours to NY and back total. I have no time for WOW with a career Mon-Fri. I don't see how you fit it in yourself. Be RESPONSIBLE!

PS: Please don't breed. You simply have too many issues going on.

Anonymous said...

Wow! A whole bunch of people ready to start an organization and some shrink ready to do talk shows over a guy with no self-control.

/giggle

Anonymous said...

Material possessions got to you that bad, huh? I hope you feel better knowing they don't exist and all your epics are data files on someone else's computer server. heehee

Howzat for a reality check?

Anonymous said...

At first I felt sorry for this guy. After reading the many thought provoking answers, I have to conclude that one only has themselves to blame if they messed up their lives over a computer game.

I think about it and I just find the whole idea of it very ludicrous. I enjoy some games but I honestly get bored very quickly with them. I never had the need to feel a power trip over something so silly that meant absolutely nothing at the end of the day.

Some of the comments about waking up and realizing it's only yourself to blame, not a game, may be harsh, but I'm sorry, I find it to be the only logical conclusion here.

We all have to grow up someday and put priorities in life where they should be. Upbringing should have taught these people that not doing so would bring consequences. That is with anything, not just a game.

So to use a game as an excuse for personal failings, I have to concur, is just an excuse.

Anonymous said...

Interesting post. I play casually with a mate a couple of times a week - we're pretty casual and I'll probably play up to 3 hours a week outside of playing with him. We only play 10pm-12 and we have fun doing it.

But the time required to do 'endgame' and to play in those big guilds - no thanks. That's not the sort of game I want to play, and WoW's not the sort of game I want to invest the time in. As mentioned in your post, it's not a game you can win. It's like having another job, except this one is virtual.

I think I'll pass on the "raid dungeons with eleventy-billion other people just to get purples" thing and play casually with similarly-minded mates who don't devote half (or more) of their lives to the game.

Anonymous said...

I just started playing WoW 2 weeks ago, and I must admit, you hit the nail on the head on this one. I spent most of my playing time solo, and was pretty proud of my character. Apparently, he wasn't anywhere near as "good" as he should have been for the level I was on.

And you know what? I thought exactly what your blog states, and decided not to care.

Good call, Yeager. Good call.

A.R.Yngve said...

MMORPGs promote (and exploit) obsessive-compulsive behavior.

Stop and ask yourselves for a moment, why these MMORPGs do not contain time-limited one-on-one competitions, tournaments or such events, similar to sports (football, racing, beat'em-ups) -- which are not nearly as time-consuming.

Anonymous said...

fucking nub.
everything's healthy in moderation, you're the piece of shit, not the game kthx.

Anonymous said...

On my server, the ratio of big end game raiding guilds to regular players is only about 1 out 100 guilds. From the thousands of people on that server, there are about 3 guilds (alliance and horde) who even try to get into Naxxramas. Those guilds are always advertising too because they can never get enough people to keep the pace up.

These types of people are not the majority. It's just a small percentage. A percentage that, after everytime I read something concerning them, always has some miserable story to tell. Whether it's how someone screwed them over or whatever.

This one is unique, however. Now you're complaining that the game screwed you over?

Anonymous said...

I found an out to the addiction: I started cheating.

After about a month of writing lengthy scripts, and the help of a little program I won't mention the name of, I suddenly have taken the grind out of the game.

Although my character's play time hasn't changed at all, the actual time that I'm at the computer has dropped from 10 hours a day to 30 minutes, if that even.

I only play when I want to have some fun stomping on some poor monsters to get their phat lewt.

XP? Not a problem. That's the computer's job.

Reputation? Not a problem. I have scripts for that too.

Farming? Computer's job.

Trades? Computer's job.

I even powerlevel people for real money, or just sell game money for greenbacks.

Addiction? What addiction? I passed it on to the computer.

Anonymous said...

bA year ago, the goal was to game, after not having games for 10-12 years.. this was a pre-30 crisis.. I did a lot of other last minute things too..

My life over the last 12 months = approx 24/24/20 days played on my 3 toons (I think), and add another 10-12 to alts that died.. and AH toons.. that's about 78 days.. we could easily round it up to 80.. now, 80 days divided by 3 to allow for 8 hours sessions.. means, I played approx 240 days over the last 1.1 years.. so, I had about 125 days off.. (but we all know I probably played shorter sessions, so I played more days)..

If I put that much into exercise, more study or the stock market, I would be a more successful person.. (mind you, if I was rich enough, I'd possibly pay out everyone's mortgages, 2 years salary, as we could be ahead of the world leading guilds, the irony)..

Anyhow.. so I'm basically winding back my gaming to take a break over summer.. I think I will re-assess over that break as to whether or not I return.. if I do return, many of you might be 70.. so we'll see what happens.. It will be a shame to miss it (and I might be too addicted to quit, but I will try and force a break onto myself)..

I'm now extending monthly.. my main is almost fully geared (my goal was tier 1).. I've rushed to experience BWL which gives me more piece of mind.. my GF has a 60 with a few epics.. that's more than I expected of her, given she’s not driven by ego and testosterone.

Maybe I stay and play casually - but I think casual playing is a delusion.. that only supports questing.. if that's the case, then I would also only continue on my hunter and drop my raid toons (with GF on her mage), the Hunter was the easiest and most fun to quest with.. (but a little boring in raids)..

So, for the friends I've made.. (and enemies - i make these very quickly).. it's been a great year..

P.S. - it took a few attempts to quit smoking years ago.. lets see how I go.. last wow attempt to quit lasted 10 mins.. Let's see if I can start music lessons after buying a guitar this year.. and get fit again..

Anonymous said...

I like spending my 20 hours a week raiding with some folks who spend 40 hours a week preparing for it.

By the same token, I like having my $6 schitzels at the local footy club, said dinner being subsidised by the other members' gambling addictions.

There is plenty of room in WoW for exercising some self control - don't sign up for raids if you know that the raid is scheduled to finish after your usual bed time. Otherwise, accept the "left early" DKP penalty and don't get too worked up about it.

Noone is indespensible (except, perhaps, your two best healers), you will be replaced over time, and perhaps even ejected from your hardcore guild. That's probably a good thing for you.

There's also plenty of room for guild leaders to learn how to run a business (because that's what a guild is). Delegate authority, establish policy and discipline. Just make sure to include in your policies a condition that group activities are never allowed to last longer than four hours. People need breaks for food, shopping, interacting with the real world.

Where MMORPGs become a problem is when killing the next mob or finishing this one quest becomes more important than washing the floors or stacking the dishwasher.

Train your children in the principle of delayed gratification, and you'll give them the best gift they could ever have.

Anonymous said...

Your a homo. lol go like.....................OMG i cant even xplain my anger. W/E Good Luck with life tho.

Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

I casually angree with most of the responces posted here, including the ones calling for personal responsibility, but the game has a thing that cannot be ignored in my opinion..

Being "comitted" and "good" at wow is the stuff good-natured people do. I am determined in everything I do. So I started playing wow. I was striving to excel in that as I chose a class that I was enjoying very much.. stuff is: to excel in wow you need to neglect stuff in real life.. I need to be a casual player and take it in moderation, but will that really fulfill me as I have the need to be better than others in everything I do? Point is I think I can enjoy the game even if I dont have the best gear, just challenging. So that will be my next bet: excel even more by being better than people with better gear and find a guild that suits my needs..

I like wow, I'm not quitting. I'll also fix some RL stuff so I CANT play for some hours in order to help my self-control. I like capoeira and having a sexy body too so I'll go find a school for that, so that will take some non-raiding evenings.

If I manage to be good at wow while excelling in RL I win. If I cant, I'll choose the RL. Girls arent that sexy in wow even with blood elf females coming ;)

I respect the original author and I guess he had no chance but to quit, but I bet he had his share of fun and a year lost is nothing. There are plenty of chicks and clubs to go DJing still, you can work out and go on a diet. RL friends dont forget you that fast too.

So stop bitching and organise your life. Wow scedule can come after that so you can actually play the game and not being played by it.

Meerder, 60 rogue on Killrog server tier 0/0.5 nooby gear

Anonymous said...

Transformation is tough
And understanding why it's happening, where it's going and if it's feasible in the long term are hard questions to ask before undertaking a great journey like this.
Damage, destruction...are all facets of transformation.
Are we comfortable with the way we've been transformed?
Can we handle it?
All personal questions and all about personal value, goals and directions.
Ask the tough questions up front.
Be honest about who we are, what we're capable of and what we're not capable of resisting are great strategies regarding incredibly new ways of living our road.
Good luck to you on yours
:)

g

Anonymous said...

I have to say all the crying goin on here makes me sick! Games are meant to be played. Seeing as there is no end to WoW yeah... expect to play alot. First and for most, why are yall wasting your time with WoW? what a piece of crap game that is. If you MUST "waste" your "time" on any mmorpg it should be EQ1 or EQ2, bar none. time spent is by CHOICE!
the game , or blizzard, did not do anything to you. It was your choice to play 30 + hours a week just to be the greatest. everyone is racing to the top , keep up or be the occassional player, but dont bicker about how much time you chose to spend on a game. if you took the time to work out for 1 hour everyday working a different muscle and eat right you can play eq or wow all day and stay skinny, so your gut is your fault not blizzards! and last, WoW blows. i can't believe people blame their over weight problem on everyone but themselves. you are no less than the woman who tried to sue McDonalds for "making her fat". Blizzard, or Sony, is not making anything fat but their pockets because people enjoy their games. if they choose not to work out that is their choice, whether it is a good one or a bad one. You made the wrong choice by not staying fit... don't blame anyone else but yourself.

Anonymous said...

You finally made me realize what WoW has done to me. I basically dropped out from my school just to play some more. Finally I didn't even want to play.. now I'm just surfing here, checking if theres anything new on the internet while my friends are at school.

Anonymous said...

Problems we treat:
- Chat Rooms
- Cybersexual Affairs
- Cybersex Addiction
- Cyberporn Addiction
- Chat Room Addiction
- Obsessive Role Play Gaming
- Compulsive Online Gambling
- eBay Addiction
- Compulsive Surfing

Pick one.

Anonymous said...

I completely agree with everything you said there.

Pretty much all kind of MMORPG are addictive.

Many people thought they could balance between real life adn the game. The line is so vague. You can easily fall out to the virtual world because life aint easy,the virtual world is way easier.

I've never played WoW but I was also an addict of other games like LineAgeII and MS for 2 years.

I've witnessed so many failure of my buddies and I can either feel or see the upcoming failure of those who continue grinding on it.

I can only say that I'm sure I'm not going to get my hand on any MMORPG ever again. Life's good.

Appreciate your time writing this. I will attach your link to my blog and tell my friends if there is no objection from you.

And... Bravo.

Anonymous said...

persoanlly its all crying and whining to me, whereas i dont do WoW...i have done and still am Eq'ing High end for nearly 7 years now....all the while married, raising 2 kids, and have been an officer and class leader for quite some time now....if you have no self control and are weak of mind that you cannot stop and take care of real life, then you have no one to blame yourself....

My other half and I both play...Raiding 4-5 nights a week, and we each still manage to attend every single event that our children are into....to even hint that the game is the problem is hiding the real problem. People whos real lives suffer due to a "game" are foolish and really deserve what they get, parents who dont control and monitor their children should have thier children taken away from them....lets up the responsibility where it belongs, look at yourself before you look at other piss poor excuses

Anonymous said...

This should be put somewhere popular.

And to those perfect people that think he's whinning or crying: he's not. It's not too hard to read his tone. Otherwise, you should get your asses out of the game and take some language class or something.

Oh, and drugs are naturally addictive. Even if you can control it now, sooner or later, you're going to go off your limit. MMORPG = drugs.

Just go "enough is enough" before it's too late. So, you don't have to write the same article as he did again.

Remember it's not a psychologist's lecture or some sort. It's an ex-gamer's experience.

Believe me, when you got yourself out of it for a month (for me), you realize something and you're not gonna get your hand on any kind of MMORPG again.

To quit "drugs" completely, people can't force you, it's all your own fight.

Anonymous said...

i was just reading around on something that relates to this:

http://valorousjourney.blogspot.com/2006/10/world-of-what.html

I kinda agree with this guy. I also played wow and i know what hes talking about

Anonymous said...

i think i already posted this, but i was reading another blog on this site that related to this, and i kinda agree with this guy:

http://valorousjourney.blogspot.com/2006/10/world-of-what.html

i also played a bit of wow and kinda agree with this

Anonymous said...

I appreciate and respect your comments.

I am currently dealing with the stress of a wife who is involved in an online game (not WoW). She has changed...a LOT. Our marriage has been under unbeleivable stress, and her friends through her game are telling her to kick me out of my house, because I do not support her playing the game.

She comes home from work and goes straight to the computer until 1:00am or 2:00am. We spent less that five minutes a day together, and we're more like roommates than husband and wife. Everytime I confront her on what it is doing to us, she gets angry and violent.

Sad, yes, but the reality is the deathclock is ticking on our marriage because of this game. It is comforting, though, to know I am not alone. I just wish there was something that could be done.

Anonymous said...

anything can be an addiction... pot, prescription pain pills, coffee, world of warcraft. Personally, I fancy a combination of all four.
cheers

Anonymous said...

there is a whole lot of bullshit reply's from people who didnt read it througly.. just ignore them, and pity them instead.

Anyways, gj getting back on course.. online gaming can seriously ruin your life.

Myself.. im playing eve online, on a (what i think) rather controlled level.
But my room mate, has some serious issues controlling his online time, but what am i to do?
Not really much to do, anything else than letting him know my opinion on it, and wait for everything to hit him in the back like a freight train.

besides i will still be his friend though...


/Mav

Anonymous said...

Wow- good stuff. Thanks for sharing your feelings and taking a moment validate and recognize that there really are WoW addicts out there and it is a serious problem that many people are facing.

While I don't think your experience is typical for the average, casual player, I think there are more than a few that share your story.

I have even been deeply hurt in the past year as good friends who also play WoW, who I thought would be there, chose the game over joining dinner parites, attending events, and just hanging out. It is hurtful to think that someone cares more about a fiticious purple item than a real life person - but the same can be said about powdered white substances or gambling. It is an addition, and it is irrational and over-powering to the person exhibiting the addictive behavior.

WoW has become a social crutch for a lot of unhappy people, or people with addictive personality who simply choose WoW over some physical substance. It think many habitual gamers who play for 50+ hours a week begin to lose their social skills in real life situtions, and a I've witnessed child-like behavior regression that is amazing and sad.

It really is a serious problem, serious enough that most major news channels in the United States have done stories on the addictive properties of online games like WoW. For those looking for online gamers recovery, you can visit Online Gamers Anontmous. http://www.olganon.org/

When online gaming ceases to be fun, it is not a healty game anymore, but a dangerous one that can cost you dearly.

Anonymous said...

I've been playing EVE-Online for three and a half years now. It's taken it's toll in a big way. My experience many similarities with the original poster... Maybe even worse because I've been at it for three times longer.

There IS no pause button, EVE is a pure PvP game and you can loose everything in an instant. It's quite stressfull at times, knowing that people are counting on you to make decisions, to keep your side on top. Often throughout the time I have been playing the game, these decisions come at the expense of RL events... Like getting to work on time, seeing friends / family.

I too feel bad that over the past three years I have witnessed other people in my corp having RL problems that are brought about by their addiction to play. It's a terrible thing and often the pull of the game is so irresistable that it just keeps pulling you back for more... and more... and more....

Willpower, self control, and something else to take your mind off the game... something constructive...

Easier to say than do.

Anonymous said...

You guys are really screwed up in the head if you think an obsession is anything other then, an OBSESSION!

It's not the game, it's not golf, it's not the TV, it's not the cell phone, it's not shopping, it's not Ebay! It's YOU!

Blame everything else all you want but someday you're going to come to the realization that you're the one with the problem, not the things you blame!

That IS THE TRUTH of all this noise in a nutshell. Obsessive/Compulsive people don't stop that behavior when they stop playing WoW. That's a fact. Deal with it. Then deal with your issues and learn to curb your appetites.

All this crap about writing articles, putting warnings on game boxes and all that other shit is just that, shit. Just another excuse to blame anything other then yourselves.

I pity you people who can't come to grips with your own out of control compulsions and point blame elsewhere. Yeah, let's close down all the malls because women are out of control spending money there. See how stupid you sound?

Anonymous said...

I understand that WoW and mmos are just considered another game and should'nt be taken seriously, but having been addicted to mmos for over 4 years dedicating the majority of my spare time to them, I know this is not normal in any sense.

However I believe in a decade or so we will be seeing mmos being just as standard as tv or music, with the majority "addicted" but in a much more controlled enviroment similar to tv show play lengths. I'm betting a sucessfull combination of wow and the sims will have planetary gravitational pull, finally implanting games into our daily routine and not just a hobby or distraction.

The point im trying to make is there will always be "better" or worse ways to spend time, it all depends on the person.
Besides maybe we'll see mmo experiance showing up on resumes?

Anonymous said...

Nice post. Becuase if MMORPGS, I was so secluded from family, freinds and school, that I almost flunked out of college. I had to quit school and take a year off in order to get my priorities back. Now, returning to school this year, I am afraid to even bring my PC with me. It seems though, that little nagging addiction is still back there, becuase I just visited a websight for EQ, where I found the link to this post. Many people have it right in the comments, the ADDICTION is whats wrong here. The inability to control your actions, like any drug.. After a years break I still twitch and think of EQ, and honestly if I had my own PC here I probably would play it. It's the love hate thing totally. Leaves you very vulnerable.

Anonymous said...

All i can say is this is wat happens when you raid...Dont raid and u wont have the same problem. Raiding ups your play time per week by 8hours. Keep it casual folks and dont join hardcore 40man raid guilds.

Anonymous said...

tbh - With more self control you wouldn't have to write this post and get comfort from the whole world.

I'm in a "hardcore" guild myself, I work, have a gf and I have real-life friends with who i meet up regularly.

It's all about time management - you claim to be a council member of a guild. Dunno how you managed to do your "guild business" without some kind of organization incl measuring of whats important and whats is not.

No Sorry-Post for me for you.

Anonymous said...

Addiction is a sneaky thing, you get to enjoy it then you want to do it more, then you dont realise you've side lined other things to do it.

The hardest part of this is to admit you got hooked and then dealing with it.

I played WoW every night for 3 months side lining my son and my boyfriend. When I relised what I was doing I took a long break and cut down to 2 raids a week. Tho when Burning crusade comes out I'm off.

Well done to all the peeps that got over the hook and those who bitched about it and poked fun at the guy, shut up.

Its not Blizz's fault its up to people to manage the time but I understand the pull of your guildies needing you and becoming a person they rely on.
But its finding a balance.

GL to you all

Anonymous said...

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See this post :D

Julien

Anonymous said...

Whats so bad about WoW as it stands now is that after hour upon hour of riading to get those epics I hear that the new expansion offers green gear that after a few weeks of playtime is much better than the epics we now see in MC,BWL and Naxx. All that work will soon be for nothing and we will have to start all over again.

Anonymous said...

wow is a subset of your life. your life is a subset of reality. dont get addicted to anything less

Anonymous said...

"Im a profesional, work 40 hours a week, and play at least 40+ hours a week of WoW without any problems. Been married for over 12 years. Still have friends and a social life."

I call B.S.

(1) A real professional almost certainly works over 40 hours a week.

(2) Your wife lets you play a video game 40 hours a week? She has a boyfriend.

(3) Still have friends (outside of WoW) and a social life even though between work and WoW you use up 80 hours a week? LOL, whatever.

Seek help.

Anonymous said...

It's obvious that it is essentially the individual's fault for letting this game get out of control for them. Just the way it is a smoker's fault, a drinker's fault, etc. But, It really makes me dissapointed in our country's ignorance even more when people are making generalizations and purposely insulting people for having problems with this game. This game seems to be played by a lot of people who have these types of concerning behavior and attitudes. Anyway, you can't just yell at someone and tell them to simply stop something they're having problems with. How would the consideration of this games possible danger be whining and have no validity when there have been such a high volume of people with similar problems. Don't displace your blames on something else but don't be ignorant and completely disregard dangers that may exist.

Anonymous said...

I quit WoW the day my bf broke up with me. I realized that there were many days I would lie to him so I could stay home and play WoW. I now wish that I went out with him on those days instead of sitting on the computer.

Anonymous said...

I didn't have the time nor the courage to read this entire thread, but all I want to say is what doesn't kill you only makes you stronger.I've had and still have many addictions in my life(wow beiing one of them) but I still have my friends who will always support me. RL sucks anyway thats why drugs are so popular. I don't have any kind of statement to make and don't care if anyone reads this or not because i'm not commin back to check anyway. I just want to get it off my chest like everyone else: If you can't handle the drug, seek help now!

Anonymous said...

I'd just like everyone to know that my long-term boyfriend became addicted to this game, since he started playing in January (11 Months ago) his personality has completely changed. he used to be a REALLY great guy who had tons of friends and an active social life. he still plays from sunrise to about 1 or 2 in the morning. it has reached the point where i cannot talk to him because hes moody and snappy and completely unaware of the world around him. if anyone who has recently quit has any idea of what i can say or do to make him see that this game is not only ruining his life but mine too. i have recently been diagnosed with depression and been faced with the choice of either moving out or breaking up with him. any suggestions would be greatly appreciated if you could PM me at vanilla_popcycle@hotmail.com that would be great. thanks guys

Anonymous said...

Anyone who does not acknowledge his comments for what they truly are, a step towards redemption and a way to grab other gamer's attention and bring them towards the light, are addicted themselves.

Anonymous said...

I have known people who got caught up in the raiding business of these games, many times over. I guess I'm lucky I never had the time for that with work. I was satisfied with the understanding that I was never catching up to them and just enjoyed the game within the boundaries of what I knew I had time for.

One word of comfort for those who are waiting for their significant others to get past the obsession:

They WILL get sick of it. You don't only get sick of the game, you get sick of dealing with the same assholes day in and day out. It doesn't take its toll, it just fizzles out.

In these games you set goals and very determined people often get obsessed with meeting those goals. Not that this is a bad thing. Those people are usually great accomplishers given the right avenues to channel that energy.

They just need to see that there's really no reward in pixelated junk. They usually figure that out sooner or later.

Anonymous said...

I quit WoW 9 months ago, and started to get my sh*^ straightened out and my priorities in line. I feel sickened by all the REAL life opportunities that I let slip away...
Last night I loaded the game again, finished the updates...and entered into my account management to reactivate my account. I looked long and hard, thought about who owns Blizz, asked myself why I'm here?...just curiosity, maybe say hi to a few old RP buddies? Somehow I ended up here. I feel like kicking my own a$$ for even thinking of destroying another chapter in my life. Thanks for helping to reinforce the reasons I quit in the first place. I want a REAL LIFE, with real problems, and REAL REWARDS. I am never going to play again. I just hope many of my friends that play, wake up some day and crawl out of their own destruction.

Anonymous said...

Hi. MMO isn't about "winning", it's about having fun with friends. It's a hobby just like any other, and at $15/month it's easy on the wallet. Sacraficing real-life to progress in the game is your choice. Don't make yourself out to be such a victim. Bet this was your first game like this.

Anonymous said...

I am playing wow for almost an year an a half, I have 2 lvl 60 chars, full epics, with a lot of high levelinstances played. I still have a personal life, I have friends, I even got married mean time, I have few hobbies and I still keep them, I have a job, I have fun, and a lot of free time. I am lucky to be in a guild where almost all people play for fun, and not for power or just to own virtual stuff. I don`t like need to do much farming in the game because there are easier way to make money, and less time consuming:). I also try some other games meanwhile. how can I do all that? is easy, I am not obssesed of this game, and if i become I try to make them for a short period of time(I get bored fast anyway):). so it is all about the player not about the game. have fun!

Anonymous said...

For me it's about self control or lack of it.

As an ex-EQ player of five years in an active raiding guild as a raid leader and officer and currently as a an officer and raid leader in an active WoW guild I am speaking from some experience (I think).

WoW or an MMORPG might be a mechanism or your personal escapism - others choose a variety of different means (television, going to a bar, sport etc).

If you take anything to an extreme it can be socially, physically and emotionally unhealthy

WoW has it's inherent addictiveness as do a plethora of other activities in life.

Ultimately you the individual choose to play, those people that take sympathy with this post perhaps should take some personal responsiblity for their own actions, rather than blaming a game.

I was addicted to EQ in a huge way and I let it dominate the social aspect of my life at that time. That was a choice, EQ didn't "make" me do a damn thing...

With WoW my priorities are different and I choose for it not to dominate the social aspect of my life, so it doesn't. Much like EQ it doesn't "make" me do anything.

I have got great enjoyment out of both games and have chosen to play the hours that I have.

As I started with this post, I feel it's about self control. If you don't have this then no matter what mechanism you choose for your personal escapism, you will still struggle.

Anonymous said...

Serious raiding guilds FTL. I've been in four guilds that have tried to straddle the line between serious raiding and casual play where you get to see some cool stuff. Every single one of them has exploded or imploded (whichever is more painful) and each time has left me with a very very sour taste in my mouth.

My wife and I have, however, developed a core group of friends of about 8 people who we have become very close with and would never have met if it wasn't for WoW.

It's just a matter of priorities and moderation. If your friends all want to watch a movie, go watch a movie, but there's nothin wrong with playin a little WoW on nights where you're really not doing anything else. If my wife and I want to go out to dinner, we'll do that, WoW be damned, but we still like to play a few nights a week. That being said, we also wouldn't make it in a serious raiding guild.

I know many many people have already said this, but here goes:

I already have a job. I don't need another one.

Despite everything I've said though, it sounds like you have your priorities straightened out in your life, and for that I am very glad. I wish you luck in all your endeavors.

Anonymous said...

I'm saddened by you people. The poster of this blog and those like him must be some of the most easily influenced people in the world. If someone tried hard enough, they could get you addicted to anything they wanted. You're pretty much a waste of a person.

It's a great game, but it's just that, a game. You have fun, you play, you meet people, you do exactly what you want. Okay, what you wanted to do was get you're stupid epics, you're stupid guild status, and put in hours and hours of time. You got what you wanted. No one is to blame but yourself.

I play a level 60 priest. I raid when I want, I play when I want, and I do whatever I want. I made this clear to the guild I'm in, and they're all like minded people. I don't play probably more then two nights a week, if that.

Stop complaining about your life. You didn't quit WoW because it was ruining your life, you quit WoW because you put too much of your life into it, and you changed your mind about what you wanted. Good job, now you're what someone mentioned earlier a "recovering WoWer" Great way to label yourself. I have another one.


Bane of Society. Grow up.

Anonymous said...

Well I find this only partly true, i too am a wow gamer, got 60, got epix!!, but i still have a "real life". Sure i play 6hr+ a day, for over 2 years now, not only wow, other online games too,o but yeah, ive been spending all my free time on wow, but i still have a real life. i still go friends who i meet everyday in school and after, we go out on week ends and have great times and clubs and bars, they dont care that i go home and become a mindless machine for hunting epix and /dancing with naked nightelves. '

If someone acculy looses his "real life" by playing something like this, its not the games fault, its your fing fault for lacking ANY, and i say ANY selfcontroll. and what about the people who are happy not haveing a real life? the game helps them in the same way as it doesent help you? they CAN and are so happy pretending to be a giant orc who can bash dragons when they cant even walk the stairs for food without sweating and panting.

"You are not what the games makes of you, but what you make of the game"
-My View on online games, (and any other "unsocial" time consuming hobby)

Just another perspective on the issue ^^

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Anonymous said...

I think the title should have been How World of Warcraft can be abused by loosers.
This guy was a lazy asshole before he got into WOW. He simply used WOW to avoid real life, if it hadn't been WOW it would have been something else, in fact I will go out on a limb and predict that he will have similar episodes thoughout his life. I urge his girlfriend to stay away from this moron and find a man with goals. The best ones set their goals as children and stick to them, they don't go to college and then sit around waiting for life to happen.
What a looser!
I'm not using anonymous to stay unkown, I just don't care to view crap like this again.

Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

Heh... it was with some chuckling that I read some of the responses to this altogether too common occurence (I especially enjoyed the poorly written exclamations of support of WoW with little or no punctuation & rife with spelling errors). I applaud the author on a) recognising the downward spiral they found themself in, and b) having the intestinal fortitude to do something about it. Would that more folks were able to take the same measures.
Make no mistakes: addictions do not have to be a physical thing... this was an addiction. And in my humble opinion, the OP did the sensible thing. Preserve humanity.

Anonymous said...

Doh... excuse the double post!

Anonymous said...

Well, my fool of a husband with a known
addictive personality just installed
warcraft


anyone intrested in a 5'8 redhead
34 DD, size 5? and 2 children one
10 the other 9.

Since I don't think he will be back

linux_anamika@yahoo.com

Anonymous said...

Nicely done post, my comments will remain on my blog but I have made a link to this post for people to come over to read.

David.

http://dmosbon.wordpress.com/2006/11/15/quit-playing-world-of-warcraftand-do-something-less-boring-instead/

Anonymous said...

I guess I just want to make the point that just because they use it as an escape doesn't mean that its not good. People drink, right? And some people know how to drink and some don't. But that doesn't mean that some people don't need to cut alcohol out of their life and blame alcohol. There are plenty of groups out there against alcohol. Plus I think its about awareness. People should know what they're getting into, kinda like they do with alcohol. I dunno if I'm getting my point across...maybe someone can help me out.

Anonymous said...

Thanks alot for making the effort to write this thread, everything you speak of is complete truth, i found it difficult to quit because i thought i would be missed and let people down, but really you are forgotten about (not completely) but are no longer missed. This game was fun and i met some nice people playing it, but i think talking on msn is better for keeping in contact. DEATH TO WOW!

Anonymous said...

I think that you are right, what we want to escape from is exactly what games like Wow are. After quiting i feel like a new person, no obligation, no depression, i used to think of a life of WOW was a carefree world-I was wrong, a life of no Wow is a life of carefree.

Anonymous said...

hey i cant help but tell u... damn that blog was great.... great u made alot of good friensd.. wished i had the friends u had... frensd that wud never forget you... wish i had true frends!!

Anonymous said...

wow, mmmmm. i just started wow cus my wife said it was a fun game and ive always been intrested in it. but im not much into rpgs so i never gave it a chance. but ihave and i gotta say its a fun game. and if your not careful addiction is almost instant. but u have to have the self control. i know its one of those games that if u dont spend atleast 12 hours a day on u porbably wont acomplish anything and will want more. but after seeing a roomate of mine. who showered maybe 1 a week, lost a marrage, and would wake up and be on his computer instantly and up till 4 in the morning and miss work and get fired at everyjob he tried to work at. i realize theres an addiction and if ur not careful it can eat you up. i felt it as soon as i started playing but i didnt let it take me. its called self control. its a video game. you guys let stuff like this ruin your lives. im a gamer by all means i love video games. but ill be damned if my marrage is ruined but a fuckin video game. you need to practice self control all of you and do other things. go out into the sun. its good. dont let some game rule your lives. you guys sound like people that just got of drugs. and thats why america is falling apart, cus people spend all this time on fuckin games, and put more effort into geting there hands on a PS3 that they gotta trample each other to get one. instead of voting for things we need, careing about whats going on. getting this fuckin president outta office. its rediculous. and then you all complain about it knowing full well that if you put this much time and effort into life, then you would be something great. basicly dee dee dee. dont let a fuckin video game rule your life. live it, you get one and ill be damned if i spend it behind a computer.

Anonymous said...

I doubt that the author will ever get to read this, however, I know the troubles he speaks of. I myself(before getting into WoW) assisted my still current girlfriend(soon of 5 years) in running Ultima Online towns of about 300 running populace. Man-o-Man do people have issues.

Ive seen things from respectable buisness owners playing opposite sex racists while stealing pictures from a cam community of another person parrading around breaking so many international laws, to a couple and 2 independent adults all having some giant affair that put one in jail, under house arrest, and the others hound US out because we found out about it...

Oi.. some people just need to be given guns for protection, others need to be receiving the protection side of the guns.. heh

All joking aside, it takes alot to have a self realization in the sense that YOU need to fix things. Alot of times people see that, have delusional day dreams of being the man and taking down a giant corperation, making millions or some crap(and dont deny it people, its something that happens to everyone every second of life in the subconscious mind. Every idea you've imagined or thought you haven't, has already gone through your head and out before you even notice). However few actually act on something they think is better for them but requires restraint on anything.

It would be nice to hear from you(author) sometime about what circles you DJ in. I used to play Ultima Online with DJ Warchild who happens to be friends with DJ Rob Gee.

Drop me a line sometime, www.glaciergamers.net

Anonymous said...

Wow is not the only mmorpg, It started for me in 1998, ultima online. I dropped out of highschool to play this game, and I've been addicted to virutal worlds since.

My life is a mess, I'm 22yeas old, broke I live with my grandmother, I have no education, no car,no job, no motivation, I'm overweight, I'm depressed.These games ruined my life.They are a drug.

Oh well I guess.

Anonymous said...

I just stumbled onto this website from who knows where, but wow! how fascinating! I have no idea what these games are, but I am reminded of something I read in Howard Zinn along the line that corporations often hire high quality people they don't really need simply to keep them from working on a competitor's project. My goodness, what could be done with the time and skills of the bright folks who pour their efforts into greedy, bottomless pits! At least you get a sweater if you take up knitting....

Anonymous said...

Well Well, hee I laugh of those that are talking about escaping from a Videogame. I do agree with you all but it does not matter if you quit a game or two you will then chose another way to escape your RL, don't you fool yourself. Long life Online Gamer......

Devine said...

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Anonymous said...

WOW this is such a hot topic now a days you gotta wonder if Blizzard is ever going to step up and doing something about it. I mean they could setup some type of 1-800 line that provides help for gaming addiction or even a way for people to put a daily time limit on their accounts or something. I mean Blizzard is rolling in money right now it would be a drop in the bucket to setup something like this.

Anonymous said...

Author: "I'm not coming back to WoW"

"Hey everybody, the expansion pack is here."

Author: "OK I'm in"

:P

Anonymous said...

I run a guild of less than 25 people. I have maintained this guild, under the same name, since wow launched. It ballooned to 300+ then shrank, ballooned again, shrank. We continue to flux but I have always made a point to NOT allow the game to take over my life.

We are a guild of players who play to "play a game" not "become poster children of elite". Raids never go away, so we never really worry over them.

What comes, comes. I think the single biggest problem with WOW, from my own experiences, and what was hinted at but not really said outright in your blog was, people want it all, and they want it RIGHT NOW. Therein lies the path to addiction: Instant Gratification, at all costs.

Sad, but utterly preventable.

Anonymous said...

I have to say this entry...WOW.

I also just recently quit, but I quit before I was too far gone. I'd been playing until I hit level 39...even had enough gold for a mount. BOUGHT the mount...and then I quit. I originally got it to play with my boyfriend...but he was 'guild this, and guild that' ...Even though he said he'd play alongside me sometime.

Never once happened, and I got bored. I quit.

Your entry speaks alot of truth, and for that, I thank you. Just goes to show: Certain genres and types of games...can really ruin someone's life.

Anonymous said...

I enjoyed your post..you are 100% right on..i hope your quest back into the real world will bring you many days of good times with friends and family. I to am head back to real life..i have spent way to many hours in WOW and have let way too much real life things slip away..i wish you peace love and happiness..thank you for your post =)

Anonymous said...

Good blog,
I myself have recently stopped playing WoW. It's not a horrible,life-destroying game in my opinion. I've been playing the game for around 6 months now;got my Warrior to Level 60,joined a raiding guild,cleared MC,killed Onyxia.etc;got bored of my character class and decided to re-roll a Priest. I've had a lot of fun,but it's hard to form a instance group on my server sometimes,finding the right raiding guild takes awhile,and occasionaly,there's idiot newbies online that messes up the WoW experience. I got bored of WoW after spending 2 months raiding end-game content,I'm not suited to wasting my time PvP'ing to get to Grand Marshal/High Warlord,and re-rolling a new character class can be very boring.
In my opinion,if you like MMORPGS,and know the risks of getting addicted to the game,then by all means..play WoW. I've been a Blizzard Entertainment fan for a long time,and I still am,but WoW demanded a lot of my time when I wanted to become the best of the best (e.g. get full Tier 3,Deathcharger's Reins,Thunderfury) So I cancelled my subscription,and started focusing more on my studies and playing other games.
In conclusion,I have nothing hateful to say about WoW,it's a fantastic game,you just need to manage your time when playing (...or not). Just know that WoW can become a very boring game once you manage to get to Level 60 ( or 70 once BC comes out),since end-game content is very time demanding and may not be suited for everyone. I also have some advice for those who's trying to quit playing WoW,or trying to convince a friend or family member as well.

1.Try avoiding the urges to get "impressive phat lewts".
"Impressive phat lewts", are classified as Tier Sets,Deathcharger's Reins,Grand Marshal/PvP Gear,and Legendary Items. These items requires a lot of time and effort to acquire in the game. Aside from the time spent to get those items,you must know there will be competition for the items,and if you lose a bid or a roll to another person,it could only agonize you,and encourage you to spend more time in the game until you get what you desire.

2.Play a new game.
World of WarCraft would eventually get boring,try finding a new game to play.For those playing WoW just to get the best gear and items,just know eventually they'll become useless once Burning Crusade comes out,go find something else to do. But if you're playing WoW just for fun,then just enjoy the game and be proud of the items you have acquired. If you want to be the best of the best,go for it. But just know in reality,the items in WoW are just a bunch of pixels and numbers!!

Anonymous said...

When you remember it is all Bits and Bytes it si easy ti controll and to quit.....

Anonymous said...

Well i played for over a year and i want to quit and finding its hard to start of to he big quit.

My 12th birthday my dad bought me WoW Cd as present and i started and leveled to 30, there i played 30 mins a day for 2 weeks. Then i just deleted the game cause i didnt like much.

After a month of quitiing, i saw some of my cousins and RL pals get into the game. So i restarted but this time i thought yes it will be fun for a hour or two. But oneday some pal of mine forced me to STEAL mt dad Cred card and power level/Golf and Power honour. By that time i was the best Priest on the horde side and mt pal was the best Druid in the horde too.

We started some guild called Elitsm. We started of with getting Tier 0 and honour armor. After a few weeks about 2 we started ZG and in 2 week we were finished ZG. After 1 month and i got Tier 1 THAT WAS WHEN THE GAME STARTED to take all my time.

I started playin 23 hours on weekends and skive skool due to more playing. I got rings on eyes now doe that.

ALL A SUDDEN we decided to merge with a guild. Well we did, i stuck up in that guild for 5 weeks there i got full transdesences.

UNTIL oneday i got kicked out the guild for defending myself. From Guildmaster to Guildless. I really felt bad and my RL pals dont GIVE a FUCK.

Im finnding hard to quit still eventhough my rep is shiat.

The girl my penis touched her vagina left me. I was kicked out the football team. My grade went down the drain and suspension was my penalty.

WoW truly RUINED MY LIFE.

Anonymous said...

While I can understand your feelings in this matter. Not everyone has this problem. I led girl scouts, cub scouts, a full time student, a house wife, and ran a friend and her kids around, up until this month and had to move. Not everyone is like that I raid have more toons then I can count... but it is all how you prioritize. *shoot me I cant spell lol*

If you lose yourself and have to spend that much time to be "leet" then yeah you have a problem. And I aplaude you for seeing that, but it is not the game... it is you. I could easily devote 12 hours a day to WoW.. I dont. Why.. because I realize that real life comes first.. chores, errands, sca, etc.. when all that is done.. then there is time for wow.

But good luck to you.

Anonymous said...

Blizzard didn't make an original game!

Its not any better then games I played over ten years ago! The only thing that makes this game different is all the other players that you can interact with. The game itself is Not anything special. Now if the GMs of the game could actually manipulate encounters by adding different responses and behavior than they would have accomplished something. All Blizzard has done is duplicate previous game ideas and change the cover so it feels new. The graphics are well shaded cartoons!

I'll worry about game addiction when they can duplicate the Chaos of RealLife!

Until than I'll be sucked in occasionally and eventually realize I've played this before.

The companies will make enormous amounts of money off us suckers and REPRODUCE the game with a new face again.

We all live in a controlled environment which keeps us working just to pay our bills and have NO time to experience life as it should be! If you don't know how life should be than you are one of the sheep.

Anonymous said...

Well, I haven’t played WOW but, I have several friends that do. One of my friends just quit and sent this blog/ (Good job btw.)The rest of my friends play alot!!. Let me Illustrate something for everybody. In the past year while some my friends were farming for loot with their 60+ level characters, I was doing other things. I started a business and still run it part time. then I bought a house went to Mexico 3 times, (Made ton of friends there too) bought new car and basically changed a lot things in my life. By the end of the year, my friends who still play, have maxed out characters, are in high ranking guilds and still live at home. oh and these guys are not high school teens. My opinion is that life has more to offer than one video game. BTW video games rock! I love them and probably keep playing for entertainment I play bf2 every so often, and I want to by the nintendo WII! but guys there is a whole other world out there! If people put half (1/2) as much effort into real life rather than the game. Their lives would be a whole lot better. Maybe half as much effort in to oh I don't finding a new job that pays them more. Spending time with granny, or hanging out with friends that don't talk/joke about WOW every 10 minutes. Finally fixed up that broken car and sold it. Saved for a new one. Start taking online school courses to finish a degree. Started working out, lifting weights and (doing some sit ups). Who knows you might actually meet a hot babe at the gym (and is that such a bad thing?) (you might even after working out for few months get to ask on date!)There are myriad of things to do. Or you can just ignore this and everybody else's blog and login back in.

Hope this makes some people think, thanks and great job at exposing
The dark side of WOW

Anonymous said...

Iam 16 iam a very *hard core Wow player i dont know why i play so much i played alot before i moved and i just cant seem to get my life back togather again so this is where i stand i got nothing better to do just school and wow

Anonymous said...

I'd just like to say thanks to the fellow who took the time to write this entry. The last month I've played less WoW than any time I can ever remember about the game and even though I am very excited about getting the expansion, reaching level 70 and checking out the new content, this blog entry remains bookmarked as a constant remainder that this is a game and should be prioritized in my life that way.

Anonymous said...

This is so true. Very enlightening. I will be posting this on my guild forums as well.

Janelle
"Eckstacy"
Lightning's Blade Server
O.o

Anonymous said...

thumbs up for this incredible comment, you'Äre truely right, man

Anonymous said...

Games don’t cause lost friendships, divorces or bad health, people do. If you find you don’t have the will power or your relationships aren’t strong enough to withstand some innocent online entertainment then it is a good idea to stop.

It’s too bad that someone would have to quit permanently rather than to take a break however, but these choices have to be made by the person who is having the problem.

Games are supposed to be used as entertainment, not obsession it is a good idea to just step back from time to time to reevaluate yourself.

Anonymous said...

MMORGS are more addictive than any other activity i have come accross, and WoW is more addictive than any other MMORPG i have come across

Anonymous said...

*Clap clap clap*

Amazing article, well written, well established, a great revealing to a former WoW addicted who never got his chance at the top.

Was even considering playing again..... Not this christmas.

Anonymous said...

i'm 16 years old and i have to say im one of those hard core players you were talking about, i'm not the best but i have been playing WOW now for about 8 months straight now and before that i was plying on my brothers account until they finally got me my own. I spend roughly 8 hours a day playing WOW and its starting to take a toll on my life. I've had to drop two of my courses because i "go home sick " from to school to play WOW. The sad thing is that I used to be a Straight A student I had friends I was still over weight but not to the extent I am now and it sickens me as I look at my Life now what i've been doing the past year. I'm running the risk of being kicked out of school, I'm severly overweight, and I have no friends. The reason I started playing WOW was to hang out with people I liked in my guild and for awhile I cnsidered them friends but now I realize that they dont give a damn about me or what I think. Ive lost the only friends i have and ive screwed myself over royally. What is there for me to do now? Well i could stop playing but the truth is ive tried and I can't I'm sitting here reading Posts about World of warcraft and how its ruined many lives and all i can say to that is I love playing WOW. I may love it but its killing my Life one friend after the other, one test after the next,One raid at a time.


sincerly yours
60 Mage Alliance

Anonymous said...

HALLELUJAH another recruit for the jesus army has emerged out of the hell that be WoW.

Anonymous said...

omigosh its jack thompson's twink lol!!

Anonymous said...

I have only been playing WoW for about 2 1/2 months, I am already at level 56 and if I stay on my current gamming schedule will be 60 in about a week and a half at the the longest. I am addicted to MMO's in general I belive. I played StarWars galaxies for 2 years and was a guild leader of a very prominent guild on the server I played. I knew that I needed to quit. I have two children and I have not spent anytime with my friends in a very long time. So i quit SWG. Well, the next thing you know I picked up a copy of Guild Wars and leveled up very quickly only to becaome very dissatisfied. So I picked up WoW. Now I find my self in the same place I was with SWG. I used to go to church, I used to lift weights 2 hours a day, I used to be very social and even played in a Hardcore band in the clubs around town. Now I very rarely go anywhere, I play hooky from work to get grinding time in, Although I am pretty advanced in my carrer I am nowhere near it's fullest possiblities.Gah! I need to quit, I need to go places, do things! Scary part is that I have allowed my 8 year old son to start down this path as well. It's time to say enough is enough! Thanks for this post! It only confirms and reinforces what I already knew to be true. Thanks for the reality check! Time to go lose the almost 100 lbs I have gained in the last couple of years!!!!!

Anonymous said...

My friend it was a great blog and I myself have been on Kel' thuzad (a server) for atleast a year and a half. Just the other day I relized what ive been doing for that time- and I saw a major change in my life. This change was not good and was controling me. I myself lost a girlfriend, friends, family and money... like yourself didnt even care to make things better. What do you do when things are worse? You farm more PVP more and raid more. Dont get me wrong I enjoy a good MMO but there comes a point when you just reached a phase where you say I'm freaking done. Its alittle deeper than BWL,naxx, AQ40, or rank 14..... its rock bottom. This game was a portal to escape real life problems and live a diffrent culture for how ever long you play. I hope you can get back into shape and do the things you once did before WOW. I myself took it apond myself to get back into collage and not have my fingers stuck on W,A,D,S ( which is a normal key setting for most MMO's) and make a new life outside my dark hole of a computer room.

Anonymous said...

Really good article that I think could be applied to many a' MMORPG. Good write up too (at least the acronyms havent creeped in!). I recently returned to EVE and just prefer the pace of play - a much more forgiving game in my opinion.

I hope all is good now your disconnected and best of luck with the future.

Anonymous said...

Like you just took it out of my mouth.. i quit tonight acctually, about 3am. Another stressful night, going to bed, waking up early morning getting back on it. Hell i didnt even enjoy the game, i just felt the NEED. Its never ending, sure it was fun sometimes, but the whole thing was so stressing, but i couldnt help it. I just HAD to play, to those of you who have never been in the position that the blogger and myself and so many others have been in, please, you have no idea. I read some of the comments and they are so idiotic because you have NO idea. I used to have friends, would call myself pretty popular, and then i left school and while waiting for college to start got WoW, this was about a year ago. Now a year on i didnt end up going to college, have absolutely no friends, only in game, its like i have to start real life from scratch, and i didnt even realise. So caught up. Well all my effort into my Shaman and it was gone in an hour, cleared my bank, my chars gear, deleted it all, said bye to some people gave out my msn, and its gone. Deleted my char (but i must say it took me a good 10 minutes to acctually type DELTE and press enter :P) Was devasted, cried irl, pathetic i know. But what started out in a fit of anger and deleting my gear, slowly turning into great regret, could be and should be the start of my new real life and sorting myself out yet again.

Paul, 16

Anonymous said...

well i see this is a popular post! anyway....its true what some of these people say "its not blizz's fault, its your own" or thinking this may have been alchohol, drugs etc that may have made you fell this way, but there is some truth in this. One third of the people who play WoW are kind and understanding, but the other two thirds are all a bunch of jerks, loosers, "those who do not care much fr education" etc., my point here is this. Think of WoW as a medicine, it can make you feel great, but there are side-effects, such as family issues created, turning into a jackass, flunking out of school, turning into a very rotund person etc..

Anonymous said...

Real good story, Thanks to this and some others I realised I had a problem just like that (played about 20 hours a week.) I quitted the game a couple of months ago and started building up a life again. Now everything is alright again and im glad I didn't waste anymore time on this game.

thanks alot Andy :)

Anonymous said...

I think the cows a movin' in the green grass billy. and calvin's just a call away. You heard it. come on now and make it happen.

Anonymous said...

OK, I appreciate the post, but I play the game on Malygos server, I am an officer in the largest Horde guild on my server. I am also a student in college, a musician who plays frequent shows, in a relationship with a very sociable girlfriend, a very family and friends oriented person, and I have yet to run into any problems/conflicts with the game. I have played over a year and have 4 level 60's, 2 of which are tier 3. I guess this post is dedicated to the weak minded. Hope this doesn't come out wrong, but though I appreciate your post, I disagree.... personally.

-WCM

Anonymous said...

Excellent post. On the subject of which is worse--Blizzard for selling an addictive product or the player for becoming addictive, i would like to say "Who is the more foolish? The fool, or the one who follows him?"

Anonymous said...

Why did everyone stop playing Warcraft 3? At least it required brains...WoW just requires a computer and time. HA...seriously though.........

That's one reason it's addictive...it's easy yet time consuming. The game itself is easy.

The funny thing is: it has all been done before. I guess no one realizes that. Every item that you get in the game someone else already has it. No new borders are made or created. Very mundane and repetitive.

Yeah, I play online games but I also realize that I am not accomplishing anything of value except passing the time and entertaining myself. It may be my form of entertainment or a way for me to communicate with my old friends.

That's the problem with computer/console games: they were made by someone else to make you think you're accomplishing something. You are not creating anything new. It was made as an item to take up your time. Yes, it's entertainment. For that reason, I'll play it but don't for a minute think I am accomplishing anything except a time consuming form of entertainment.

In response to some of the comments made in the original post, I'll go on being "useless" and having a good time with friends who live in other places that I can't see everyday due to real life. I realize it's addictive. Restraint is a wonderful thing.

This blog hasn't said much good about the game but the game is a game. Treat it like one.

FLAME AWAY!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Some possible light laid upon the reasoning behind people "losing their lives" over these games.....

Ever played a game and heard this line "It's just a game man"? Sure, we all have. My answer to this has always been "No, this is life"

Now do not get me wrong, this is not a joke or a smartassed comment. I am quite serious in saying this. Everything you do, every moment you exist is life.

By saying that since you or someone has lived a large portion of their life online is somehow wrong you are missing the point of life. We live to live. Our first requirement is air...for a few more years that is supplied for free (but don't hold your breath...pun intended) Our second requirement is food and water...since these people are both alive and fatter they obviously have this need filled. Our third requirement (although we can live without it if we must) is social interaction... This need we are all filling right now. All other needs are truly secondary to these.

[Analogy interjection]
Saying a person is wasting their life online is like saying a person is wasting their life as a priest, nun, or monk.

You apply your time to that which makes you feel best. Nothing suckers you in, you choose to do it because you accept the tradeoff. And as quickly as you get into it you will as quickly get out of it.

To conclude just let me say I am just like you were and I have been burnt out before but in the end I have this to say: I have hundreds of friends. Friends that are from everywhere in the world, dozens of countries, dozens of religions, and endless different personalities. My friends.

If you think I am wrong ask yourself this question: Have you ever heard of anyone playing a non-online game this much?

[GC]Consul-X
[1A]Lt.Col.X
[KT]General.X

Anonymous said...

nice Blog, lot of truth

Anonymous said...

This is true and im embarrassed to admit it. I have been playing wow for 2 years now for maybe 1-2 hours to start with till i got to about 49 and decided to just waste my life away running 'ST' and 'mara' and 'brd' etc, etc. I eventually got to 60 after wasting a whole thursday grinding when i got back from school and refusing to do my homework till i achieved it. I eventually got to 60 and got 3 of my freinds involved with the game, i joined an end-game guild and raided more or less every night for afew weeks until my grades screwed up and my parents decided to take effect. They now make me do my homework first before i play and have banned me raiding (which i objected to at first) but now realise they have helped me a great deal. I've lost a good group of friends and they are now all friends with my best mate who has luckily stuck by me why i screwed my life. I've now quit my raiding guild am now guildless and have found it abit boring and am now thinking of nearly quitting but i would like to see the burning crusade and try out some new stuff. Thanks for posting this so i could see my life and put it in perspective.

Anonymous said...

very informative, thanks. I am loosing my husband to this game and have run out of ideas. Got any advice?

Anonymous said...

http://www.nickyee.com/hub/addiction/addiction.pdf

Anonymous said...

I just happened to stumble upon this and love it. Me and my fiance just broke up about a month ago because of his WoW "obsession". I tried to play with him for a little while but he would never help...he'd say he'd help me but then his guild needed him and since he was a lvl 60 gnome warlock and I was only a meer noob, he had no time for me because I was worthless to him ingame. It started getting like that in life too. I quit after I got my undead warlock to 40 because I found the game boring and didn't see why he spent most of the nite playing it instead of wanting to spend time with me. We were engaged for 2 years....now we are nothing but a shell of people who are living together and I'm almost out of here. His obsession still continues and when I asked him if he wanted to try to fix our relationship he simply looked at the computer then looked at me and said no. Not too soon after that he logged onto WoW and told everybody he was single...sad but true. So thats how my life was ruined by WoW and I dont think he will ever snap out of this rut hes in but I'm gonna try to move on and start my own life and hopefully find something more satifying that somebody who would much rather spend all week raiding and trying to get better stuff than everybody else with his guild who doesn't like his real life friends. I hope most people snap out of it and see what they are missing, you know its really sad when relationships and families and friends are torn apart because of something stupid like this. I'm not anti-gamer either...I LOVE games. I just happen to be anti-world of warcraft.

Anonymous said...

Playing this game in "moderation" is almost as pointless as playing hardcore. To get ANYWHERE in this game you have to dedicate lots of time like the blog says. If you play in moderation you're just wasting less time to accomplish less in the game.

For the person who said they just left a raiding guild to join up with friends... What do you do if you don't raid... Farm... What else is there to do aside from the raiding and PVP (which gets boring quickly).

I recently quit WOW myself. This game brings out the worst in people.

Anonymous said...

I know that this may sound a bit lame but Neopets almost made me loose an excellent GPA. Those games that have no end really suck. After reading these posts, I am going no where near WoW. Now, I am one of those people who will buy a game every now and then and want to finish it over the weekend.

To those who are ragging and name calling, this is not an intelligent way to support an argument. Maybye it would be best if would leave your hostility at the door. Better yet, why don't you people read up on the common fallacies.

Maybe one should look at the obsession of WoW and Neopets as human nature. Animals, in general, do things for the gold. Games like WoW and Neopets offer a pot of gold at the end of an unending rainbow. To conquer a game is to feed the human desire to achieve.
We cannot add apples and oranges! Please do not use week analogies such as crack addicts and alcoholics are the same as people who are searching for the reward of completing a game.
One can argue that goal completion triggers the same chemicals as a drug. These chemicals are what the person is addicted to. In that case, shame on anyone for ever trying to meet their goals.

Anonymous said...

"60 levels, 30+ epics, 70 days played"

wtf, my alts have more epics and days played than you and you claim to be in one of the worlds most famous guilds? unless youre GL of DnT...no one knows you ^_^

Anonymous said...

you lemmings can keep posting your pathetic excuses as to why you play this piece of shit game. I'll be outside enjoying life and not stressing out over a bunch of pixels and code.

Anonymous said...

Very nice write-up, and even though I am only a 16 year old student I whole-heartedly empathise with what happened to you.

A lot of people are getting the idea that people 'let the game take over themselves', but what you have to realise is that there is a lot of external pressure from people in the game itself. I left to enter 'real life' from my guild as well very suddenly (the faster I did it the less chance I would have changed my mind), however, many of my so called "friends" told me I was a coward.

The day after, only one person bothers to talk to me outside of the dreadful game now, and I am so grateful that he bothered to do so. It sucks to leave the game feeling pure emptiness, that leaving an MMORPG without bringing friendships along is just the most depressing thing ever.

I really envy the D&D days like Dr. Ellen has posted. I would kill to play a game where you could just immerse yourself while still being completely connected to the real-world, never being a proper 'mind-trap'.

Anonymous said...

I must say that is well put
I used to play WoW and I couldn't play it any more because it was taking over my life. Everything you've stated is completely true, and I thank you for putting it out in the open.
~yuna

Anonymous said...

Hi there! Well done friend, well done. Ceasing to engage in any activity that you feel harms you is a good thing. Succeeding requires bravery, determination, and no small amount of backbone. Welcome back to the world of the living.

I played WoW for a while certainly. A long time I suppose, but the highest level I ever actually reached was 50. I quit because I found the game pretty boring by that time so I never really became addicted. However, I can still relate because I am certainly addicted to booze.

My comment though, is for some of you nay- sayers that have posted rather aggressive, and sometimes derogatory responses to the above post. I'd like for you to consider the following.

Easily 80- 90% of you guys replying to blast the writer have stuck to a fairly small group of complaints. Allow me to itemize briefly:

1) You're offended that the writer claims Blizzard is to blame for WoW's addictive qualities.

2) You're offended that the writer calls for everyone who still plays WoW, whether they have a problem playing or not, to quit playing.

3) You're offended that the writer insists that anyone who plays WoW is certainly addicted to it.

Understand the following sentence. Read it more than once before you reply- because its important and very relevant. Ready? Here it comes.

The writer did not say any of the three things that I have itemized above.

Read the above again. Then read the next line.

He did not say them, but you did.

Now. Ask yourself why you are arguing so hard, why you are so deeply offended that you must insult the writer, why you are taking the time to justify yourself-

when no one has challenged your own position in regard to this game?

You've posted your justifications to an arguement that no one has put forth. I think many of you have consciences that are screaming at you... rather than post, maybe you should be asking yourself if you are addicted to WoW.

Anonymous said...

The author of this article took responsibility for how he poorly handled his offline life in relation to WoW.

The fact that many of you commenting on this seem to ignore that seriously suggests that you're in a far worst state than him when it comes to facing reality.

Learn to read.
Geesus

Anonymous said...

Hooray! You quit virtual reality gaming after neglecting important real life matters, like diet and relationships.
To get your weight down and make you feel important again and/or be atractive to the opposite sex, have a line of coke. Make that two fat lines.
It's fun, honest!*



*comment may contain traces of English sarcasm.

Anonymous said...

Thanks for the wonderful article. I can relate- my husband seems addicted to this game, and I didn't know if I was alone in having thoughts of divorcing him over it. I want him to read it.

Anonymous said...

OMG! My husband started playing, and I hated him for it, then I got curious.....and Now I am addicted. I have a 60 Rogue, 50 Druid, 25 Hunter, etc. My Husband has a 60 Hunter, 56 Priest, ect. We used to fight over who got to play, then we got a second computer..and a second account. We are both so addicted to this game. And the Expansion came out yesterday....a whole new begininng. I feel bad cause we have 2 kids, and all we really do is play this damn game...omg! If you have any advice for me please e-mail me! icefire1031@yahoo.com

Anonymous said...

Its funny because i play, i addmit that all this shit he says is true everyday. So why does that make him so special? becaues you all are to scared to say it yourselves. GG nubs. He is no better then anyone who plays or quit. So stop crying over how you fucked you'r lives and go out and fix them.


P.S.- I laugh at you all for being so weak minded.

Anonymous said...

^same person
Also think about why you started playin in the first place. Did you play to try and be the hero of WoW and save all these ppl that you only met throgh the game. No, i dont think you did so in turn you set yourself up for all this shit you are crying about. The best you can do is point them in the right directon and hope they do the right thing. If not then there only to blame themselves and you go on living. Because like you said 3days and you are a ghost in WoW. So reading this post is a waste of time, you took it so serious and it got you all but hurt so deal with it.

punkfish said...

I think that this will help a lot of people out there playing WOW and can't leave. I myself am still playing the game, but I manage to control it, playing about 10-15 hours a week (i know it's a small amount compare to others). However i do have friends that can play up to 16 hours in a row, an astonishing amount. I would probably though play a lot more if it wasn't for baskeball, football, tennis, boy scouts, piano, and maintaning a B+ to A average in school. I think that anyone that plans on getting WOW should definitly read this post before making the final decision.

Anonymous said...

Gratz on being able to quit. Sometimes I wish I would quit but yet I don't want to.

For me, I have never been a gamer, played the occasional Mario games. But prior to WoW I maybe could say /1 day played for all the games I ever played. My husband bought me the game since he was playing it and I was always complaining about him on it. It started out slow and then it just happened... I became an addict. I enjoy playing though. , its like being able to play and have a social online life at the same time.

But really... I should quit, my husband maybe plays 2 hours a month and thats rare. I get up 1.5 hours before I have to go to work in the morning just to play. But its because I dont play much at night, thats my family/sleep time. I do put quite a few hours into it on the weekend. But now with the expansion out, its even more fun. My 60s can actually do something other than raid. But yes I do feel like a complete ass for spending more hours than I would like to admit raiding just to do a simple quest with a reward that is way better than my epics.

I hope to just enjoy my time, enjoy playing with the people I work with. But also to take more time off of it. It will never end so there is no rush... and really that super duper ubr armor really ain't gonna get me anywhere in real life.

Anonymous said...

WoW caused the 6 ear relationshp that i was in to fall apart. The guy i was with started spending more and more time on it, and even though we lived together there was never enough time for us to do anything. Even still, when we are trying to 'make things work' he spends at least 3 hours a night on it. It's sad to see such an intelligent man waste his time on a game and throw away his life.

Anonymous said...

Denial is the first sign of addiction. The second is your days /played.

Anonymous said...

I quit Warcraft 14 days ago. It's scary how this article could almost have been written by me about myself.

Even now I still have vivid dreams where I find myself going back to the game. Thanks for writing the article as it'll help towards keeping me away from the damn game and hopefully staying sane.

Anonymous said...

Hellllpppp....can someone please help my ailing marriage! My partner is an addict and refuses to admit it. He is in denial and gets angry each time I try to remind him. I'm at the end of my tethers and extremely disappointed that the person that I comit to spend my life with has so little resolve and restraint. I'd be most grateful if someone can tell me what to do...drop me a note at ctchoong@hotmail.com...

Anonymous said...

I am an easy addict. I was first addicted to runescape, and I've been addicted on an off to many games since I was young. Through the years of grade 10 and 11 I stopped, desperatly trying to pick up my life and make up for my lack of friends. I got a girlfriend, but knew NOTHING! I was lost. I soon got out of this phase and bought WoW. Bad mistake. I heard it was more addicting than crack, and I know Im an easy game addict. I spent the better half of 1 month making numerous characters trying to decide what I wanted to be. I'd get up late and play until sunrise, that's right, sunRISE. I was addicted. I had mood swings and I had withdrawl when I was at work or eating supper. I'd skip school to play and get only 5 hours sleep cramming in my last of every activity. All through my leveling of my warrior I had been told the game gets 100% BETTER when you get to level 60. The game was already outstanding, I couldn't get enough of it. I got to level 40 and bought my mount. I took my first trip on my mount and absolutley loved it. That same night I logged off WoW and broke the disc into 5 pieces, destroyed my CD key and uninstalled WoW. I sat in my chair for hours staring at the broken disc, wondering what I had done. Deep down inside me I knew I had done the right thing, I saved myself. If I would have continued playing there would have been no turning back. In fact, I'd be playing right now. But Im happier than ever that i quit because shortly after I met a girl and dated her for 7 months, losing my virginity and gaining valuable social skills. I saved my physique before it got out of hand and in less than six months from today i will be joining the army full time. I vowed to never play any type of rpg ever again, only shooters. Two weeks after I broke the game I had withdrawl symptons, and almost immediatly after two weeks I realized how much I enjoyed fresh air again. I was myself, I wasn't kooped up in my bedroom eating junky food and feeling dirty and unshowered, bad breath, sore eyes, stiff neck - too much ahead of me to accomplish. Almost an impossible ammount - that's what WoW is. It is impossible. Impossible to beat, but not impossible to get over. I hope people to see this will force themselves to stop. Don't think about it, don't decide on it. DO NOT write down the pro's and cons. Deep down you know it's better to stop, so please, just do it. You will thank yourself sometime in the future when your having the time of your life that you otherwise would not be having.


If you look at the big picture, you are not accomplishing anything. If you shut off all the lights and all the monitors, your body is simply sitting in one spot clicking over and over again.. that's all it's doing. Try sitting in a chair in a dark room with nothing in front of you, 10 hours a day, 7 days a week.

It's pointless, and in my opinion, dangerous.

I hope you take this to heart,


Sincerely,

A former WoW addict who seen the light.

Anonymous said...

Great story...i have the same problem...playing some other online game Neverlands.ru maybee someone familiar with this game....a lot of people is getting out of their lifes and hiding in the virtual life .... this is not normal ..... people should live their life and not to hide from their problems by hiding in virtuality...

thank you for the post...this made me to think more about this problem... and i`m starting to get out of the virtual life and back for my girl-friend(future wife) and my old friend that i have left for this stupid thing "Virtual life".....

Anonymous said...

I'm a 29 year old 1st year Medical Resident and I've Been clean from WOW for about 9 months now. I was a level 60 NE rogue, and I used to play about 7 hours a day on weekdays and 12 hours on weekends, raiding to 4 AM, PVPing non stop in and out of BG to rack up honor, you know the deal.

I know they revamped the honor system, but when I was playing it I began to despise the built in honor decay. But it made me realize that the game is designed for MAXIMIZED addition. You are "rewarded" for playing more and punished for not playing losing stats and gear. It made me sick when I though about the money I dumped into the game to pay Blizz for making me more addicted.

And FOR WHAT? To play flippin' dress up. WOW = DRESS UP. Thats it, that's the final purpose of any raid or quest, to add a better item to your character slots.

After graduating medical school and starting my residency in the past year, has really put things in perspective about how insignifcant and pathetic WOW is. Each time when I call the time of death on a dead patient, I console the families by telling them to remember the time they spent with their dead loved one.

To you WOW addicts, what will your loved ones say about you if you were my dead patient tomorrow? Perhaps they would say that you've alread been dead to them for some time while playing WOW all this time.

Anonymous said...

Wow....thats what has been running my life these last few months...in no time flat, I lost my g/f my Job and I lost about 20 pounds...160 isnt a healthy weight for some one 6'2...
Im 19 years old, I just Graduated....and I was introduced to Wow by some Co-workers...
But i dont know how to Stop...i mean, just one more lvl...I have a lvl 67 Ne hunter....i mean, I guess im not as bad as some of the lvl 70's already, but still....Ive cut my self off from the out side world. I find my self up till all ends Sleeping all day.....Im not even sure what makes me happy any more....this game is running my life, and I want it back....does any one have any Suggestions..?

Anonymous said...

I hope your reading this but if not that's fine, but anyways... I find myself doing shitty in college now and finding myself on warcraft for hours on end and neglecting my friends just because I want to "level up". I even try to find excuses to why I'm alloud to do this and I try not to but it always gets the best of me. The game itself isn't addictive, it's the point your making in the game that gets ahold of you. Seeing that you quited this game, I think I'll try and stop playing for awhile and if that works, just cancel my account.

Anonymous said...


Hardest thing I had to do


Thanks for the great post. I was a guild officer and the warlock class officer of an up and coming guild on our server. But after watching the infamous South Park WOW episode, I realized all my "achievements" were meaningless and came at the sacrifice of my real life. It was an escape from a life that sucked. (Unemployed, girlfriend moved away, tons of debt, etc.)

The only way for me to quit was to delete my main character and my many, many alts. I guess I was too proud to ebay my character or to pass it on to someone perhaps even ruining their life.

I posted the video of my "suicide" to my guild and was called a fool. It's pretty sad to see that life still goes on for them. Now about 3-4 months after breaking the addiction and with the release of Burning Crusades, I still get people asking for me to return.

But... I don't intend on ever going back. My life is pretty good without WOW and I need to grind RL for a bit.

Anonymous said...

I have played up to level 35 since I started 24 days ago. Now I am having dreams about this freaking game. I do know I have an addicting personality and do know that I will be spending more time as I level up, so thanks all for your comments, I think I am quitting while I am ahead!

Anonymous said...

I am a WOW player as is about 7 million other people on this rock. Anything can become addicting if you lack the will power. I have been playing this game since release date. I have 2 main characters and about 14 other alternate characters spread across two servers. I play quite regularly. It is the only game I have installed on my system. At the same time, I am maintaining a steady 2 year relationship, a job I have had for nearly 10 years, and going to college and doing just fine with my studies. The point I am trying to get at is, sure... you had a problem because you allowed it to become a problem. You must take everything in moderation and if something becomes an addiction, the only person you can blame is yourself. For all the threads and postings I have come across with girlfriends complaining about boyfriend's addictions to gaming and vice versa, maybe you should question what the person's will power rather than questioning the substance or material involved.

Anonymous said...

As someone who played almost since Warcraft's inception, I can vouch for the addictive side of the game. The game is set up to create that addiction or at least play off of addictive personalities - through reward methods that are consistent ( if I kill this mob I get X amount of experience) and random (Oh Boy - a purple sword of Idiocy dropped!). Other role-playing games use a similar technique. The problem with Warcraft ( as many others have pointed out) is that the game never ends.

I lost a job in part due to playing too much. I recognized the drain on me (time, motivation, etc.) and quit and inactivated my account, going back to school and getting my MCSD. After getting it and waiting on getting a job, I drifted back into playing WOW again. I got the job but realized I am wasting my potential - for what? Twinking another character to 60? The only thing that worked for me was actually deleting all my characters ( I had a stash of over 1,000 gold and several level 60 players, too much temptation to get back in and play again ).

A final word - for those of you who can play in moderation and enjoy the game - do so. For those of us that can't - find a positive addiction and go with that. Some of the greatest achievements in the REAL world have been made by people with addictive personalties.

Anonymous said...

Thanks for the honest blog about your relationship with WoW. My husband and I have been playing it for a year now and it's all he talks about to me. He's always "tired' from playing all night, has a night job anyway so this isn't helping him get back to normal sleep hours when he can see me. I played it b/c he was into it. He's addicted to it and I'm finally bored to tears with it and would rather read a book, go to grad school, see friends, family etc. and he would rather stay at home and pretend he's a damn dwarf. And yes, it's an un-winnable game, there are teens who are failing HS due to this game, thankfully some of their parents realize this and kill their accounts, and it's a diversion to dealing with real life. Some people watch a 2 hour movie to escape the hassles of life while others devote 8 hours or 10 a day to it and wonder why they're spouse is filing for divorce, why their kids are getting a character to play with their dads online since they never hang with them and so on. It's a video game and if you're playing that long on it you're probably depressed to begin with and don't neglect your spouse/kids/family/friends over a game. If you can ocassionally play it do so. If you're losing sleep from it, give it up.
The game doesn't kill relationships. Most are probably gone or in trouble to begin with before someone gets consumed by it, but it sure doesn't help.

Unknown said...

I never played WoW myself. I couldn't. My husband and I both had bad addictions to other online games, and we completely and totally neglected our 3 yr old daughter. (Thank god we lived with his parents so she was still being cared for properly) When we finally broke down and gave up the game we were playing, it was like a breath of fresh air. We had so much free time, and then...the guilt hit us. We had missed so much. We swore off of online games then. Well,in the last few months, my husband has been bitten by the WoW bug. He's been wanting to play-like he suddenly forgot everything from before.

The thought of us/him going back to it literally makes me sick. There is such a fear there, because I sincerely doubt he can control his want to play. He's already expressed to friends that he's the type of person who would HAVE to get that rare sword (generically speaking)...be the strongest, and so on and so forth.

I really don't know where I am going with this. I guess, it is just glad to see that someone else sees that these games can be insanely addictive to those of us with that sort of personality. The reference I keep using with my husband is, "You don't give a recovering alcoholic a can of beer and tell him to enjoy--but only have the one."

It really is an addiction--

Anonymous said...

The crux of the issue seems to be with attaining the TOP TIER. I have to be level 70 with all the cool gear .

Bull

Play to where it stops being fun, then take a break. Maybe start over with a different class or race. Switch from Alliance to Horde or vice versa. or don't play.

Heck I rarely even play my top guy anymore, just to grind out some gold to finance my latest "experiment".

I play to unwind. And unwinding doesn't include pimple-faced Johnny's constant keeping up with the Joneses and popping a duel invite to every person who happens to be three or four levels below him and has the misfortune of being in his vicinity.

It's not about being the top dog, or "pwning noobs", have fun, relax, work out, take the significant other out to dinner and a movie...Azeroth will be there if you want to crush some murlocs (I hate me some murlocs)

Anonymous said...

Alot of the things you say in the blog are true.. I quitted playing WoW about 5-6 months ago and now I want to play it more then ever..

I might buy it again but, I made a promise to myself not to get addicted, and I wasnt that addicted the time I played wow since it took ages for me to grow up to 60 ;P, But thanks for telling people how wow can affect them :)

Anonymous said...

I'm just waiting for the expansion to actually go out and do something cool again.

Anonymous said...

Very good read, i understand you completely. I now spend my nights and weekends around all of my friends and not some fake alter reality. Besides, i would way rather be drunk and with my friends then play this game anyday

Anonymous said...

Not sure if being drunk with your friend is better than with your online friend from wow... :)

Anonymous said...

WOW is a joke and I commend the gentleman who wrote this article. I have an ex who is continuing to be part of this fantasy world to escape real life. It preys on the weak, he is a real life coc addict, and has just enhanced his addictions to a game. It's all for a sense of belonging, that they cannot seem to find for themselves in the real world..because they are failures themselves to some degree. This may not represent all players of the game, but most of us "real world" people know exactly what this game is about, and how pathetic it is.

Anonymous said...

like so many other people, i feel the same way. I have been playing wow for so long that when i'm not playing i don't know what to do anymore.

Anonymous said...

Moost of the things are treu,
im a Shaman Class leader,
bud the thing about leading youre class and getting the crap of it, is not completely treu....

i have been a CL for about 1 year now and i din´t get much crap only something like o youre doing well and stuff like that, so its the people that are playing not wow it self...

the rest about farming and play alot a week is rather treu, some time´s even sick,
bud lots of me frends are gamers to so we farm togetter and communicate over ventrilo or whatever, so farming is not always boring....

the raiding is rather long sometime bud its just whit the other players you play whit,
the long raiding is hard sometime bud with some good frends ad other nice and relax gamers/guildies its cool to do..

al togetter:
WOW is al about playing quite much bud the best way to be happy playing is to play whit nice lets etc etc....
that realy ceaps me going for like olmost 2 years now xD

so good luck reintrading you irl...

greet ..

Anonymous said...

Lol the guy at the bottem needs to l2spell.

Anonymous said...

I'm physically deformed - chest cracking - from playing 10-15 hours daily for a year. Just quick and hope to get better.

Anonymous said...

quit*

Anonymous said...

Thank you. I showed my friend who is an addict to WoW and he turn off his computer and quit :) brought tears to my eyes how quickly he realized the truth.

Anonymous said...

I was actually playing WOW, trying to find the best place to farm netherweave, when i stumbled upon this article. I've been playing for 3 months now, and I was reading through the comments and someone mentioned a 30 hour week.

I realized thats about 4 hours a day...i play around 7 a day, not to mention weekends. 55+ hours a week. On a never ending game!! It blew my mind. Trying to hit 70 and continue through high school was actually starting to become a challenge. I would play during classes, during my frees, during studyhall (boarding school). It took over my life.

The problem is not with the game. The game is designed with the idea of a capitalist economy. The more fun the product, the more people will buy it. Much like EVERY product, it is constantly changing in order to become bigger and better. Let them make better gear and bigger end-game raids, its their right to do so in order to make a better product.

The problem is, just like everyone has already posted, self control. But its also the goals you set for yourself. I wanted a lv 70 so bad, and i fought for that. Leveling was the most fun i could have, and that took up a gross amount of my time. Some people want to have fun by running the occasional instance. They obviously didn't choose to spend hours running raids, because they didn't find it fun.

WOW is fun as hell. But there are more active, better ways to spend your time. Have fun in different places, doing different, more social things than sitting on a computer for hours on end. A great article, Yeager, and i hope to get off this game soon.

As fun as it is...it ends lives

-charlie

Anonymous said...

Like anything, if you pay attention to it, it will grow and can become all encompassing. I do think a gaming addiction is a form of escape. Also if it gets the adrenalyn flowing and you enjoy success in the game, it can provide a substitute for a possible lack stimuli in life.

Anonymous said...

I just want to point out that WoW addiction, and drug addiction are not even comparable. Drugs arent about consuming time, they are all about living in that moment. Also, an intensity that drug addiction carries is that your life could end as a result of such a lifestyle.
I've also played WoW religiously at times, but never played past, or even up to lvl 60. (i've had experience in both of these areas) I agree that WoW is a waste of time, but is not entirely evil. It all depends on how you want to play it. Some douche-bag nerd who gets satisfaction from getting gear, or a sane person who enjoys simply kicking the shit out of enemy players alongside friends.

Anonymous said...

gimmie a break....it's an ADDICTION! Drugs, games or whatever...it's an ADDICTION for many. So, yes they are comparable. One who hurts themselves, those around them and cannot make reasonable judgment calls on how much time they spend on the game, all says ADDICTION. Can you spell A-D-D-I-C-T-I-O-N?

Anonymous said...

well done!!!

Anonymous said...

Wow, it just amazes me how many idiots there are in this world. I have two jobs, a wife, and a kid, and an athletically active social life. When I get home from my 15hr day, and my wife & kid are sleeping, there is absolutely nothing wrong with me sitting at my computer to cool down for 1-2 hours with my WoW toons. Yet, there are still pathetic imbeciles out there who will classify me as an addict to justify their inability to control their lives. All you people quitting and complaining about the "addiction" that ruined your lives need to take a cue from real addiction counseling:

Q:Who made you do it? A:You.
Q:Who is really to blame? A:You.

When you get past the denial stage, and through the hate/anger stage, perhaps you will realize that your own inability to control yourself led you to that addiction. The fact that Blizzard filled that void in your life is just coincidence. It could have easily been alcohol, porn, drugs, Jesus, etc. that filled that void.

Pick your pathetic lives off the floor, take some control, and learn to enjoy a life that you are in control of. Blaming other people or a company that creates a GAME, is just a lame, pathetic, piteous, disturbing and sad excuse. Grow the hell up.

Anonymous said...

Methinks Ordog ( previous poster ) should seek anger management counseling. 2 hours a day of playing is NOTHING compared to what others put in. Of course maybe he would play more if he wasn't working 2 jobs. :~)

Anonymous said...

I can really relate to the OP. Sure, WoW may be fun, but in the end, is it really worth it? Is it really worth sacrificing the time, effort and relationships to play it constantly? It is something that took me years to come to terms with. Some people can handle it, but many of us cannot, which I think is something that we need to accept.

Anyway, I run a site designed to help people with WoW addictions. You can find it at http://www.WoWRecovery.com

jaek said...

I'm happy for your moment of clarity. I'm also pleased that you posted this, because individuals in the same situation need to hear your words.

Excess of any kind, in any medium, almost certainly leads to negative results. It's not limited to video games.

It's all about self-control and priorities. If you don't have the former, you can't adhere to the latter.

Just a thought.

-jaek

PS—I'm guild leader for a 230-account community that's well over two years old, so I'm well aware of the pitfalls.

Anonymous said...

Excellent post, especially the insight on the leadership portion of your experiences.

Half the people that read this have no clue what kind of work, sacrifice and energy go into leading a successful guild. When you are dedicated and devoted to being the best at what you do, you sometimes lose track of yourself. That applies to everything we do, be it real world or virtual world. That's a problem in MMOs and I think even more so when you're placed in a leadership capacity when playing MMOs.

I see these posts from people who want to make judgements. These are the same people that cry for attention, gear, and assistance in life and in game. This guy came into the game and made his mark, sacrificing everything to achieve it. The beauty of this post is his epiphany. He realized the importance of real life, something most of you do not or will never realize because of the pull of the game.

Be happy for the guy for having fun, achieving some e-props, enjoying the game to the fullest, and making a clean break at the end.

Not once did he dog your beloved game. He dogged the people addicted to it. I don't see any point in the attacks on him or his personal character. He never blamed Blizz for his "addiction". So come off it.

I quit my last MMO too after nearly sacrificing more than I should have. I logged the hours, I played the game, I took my shit to the next level. I was succesful in game. I was respected in game. Shit, I was feared by my enemies and loved by my guild, or so I thought. It took the birth of my daughter to make me realize that I was placing priorities on worthless pixels and virtual data. That shit doesn't mean jack. The instant I realized that I was quitting, my guild changed, the people changed. In their eyes, I was a traitor and a loser. After everything we had been through as a guild, the memories and victories were gone in an instant. They were looking for new guild before I had officially left the game. They were onto the next fix as soon as they all realized I wasn't going to organize their raids, pvp, distribute epics, or even kick it anymore. Don't get me wrong most supported my decision and I chat with them now, but you'd be surprised how quickly your efforts mean to people when you decide to quit.

I feel sad for the people who play any MMO. If they're casual players, I laugh at them for wasting their time. If they're hardcore, they ain't living life in the real world. It's a catch 22, and proof positive why playing that game is a worthless endeavor. Living life to the fullest will always beat the hell out of wasting your time playing a stupid ass game.

Grats bro. Good luck with life man.

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