Tuesday, October 17, 2006

The View From the Top

The top of what you ask? The height of World of Warcraft greatness.

A few weeks ago, a good friend of mine quit playing Warcraft. He was a council member on what is now one of the oldest guilds in the world, the type of position coveted by many of the 7 million people who play the game today, but which only a few ever get.

When he quit, I asked him if he would write a guest blog post about the experience. What follows is a cautionary tale about the pull an escape from reality can have on you.

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60 levels, 30+ epics, a few really good "real life" friends, a seat on the oldest and largest guild on our server's council, 70+ days "/played," and one "real" year later...

Mr. Yeager asked me to write this "guest blog" for him. I figured I should oblige him this request - it was none other than Mr. Yeager who first introduced me to (begged for me to buy, actually :-p) the World of Warcraft. It was the "perfect storm" for me; a time in my life when I was unemployed, living at my family's house far from my friends, and had just finished my engineering degree and was taking a little time to find a job. I had a lot of free time on my hands and WoW gave me a place to spend it.

This could be a many page epic tale, but I figure I'd give you the brief history and pertinent information. The guild Mr. Yeager got me into and with which I became an officer is the oldest and largest on the server I played on. It is around 18 months old and extremely well-versed in endgame instances. I was both the "mage class lead" and an officer. I have many very good friends I met through WoW (in real life - no kidding) and even have been "involved" with another councilor in real life (yes, I know, I'm weird for meeting girls through an online video game but honestly, ask Mr. Yeager, she's head and shoulders better than all the girls I met DJing, waiting tables, in college, and bartending at clubs in Philly). But I digress...

I just left WoW permanently. I was a leader in one of the largest and most respected guilds in the world, a well-equipped and well-versed mage, and considered myself to have many close friends in my guild. Why did I leave? Simple: Blizzard has created an alternate universe where we don't have to be ourselves when we don't want to be. From my vantage point as a guild decision maker, I've seen it destroy more families and friendships and take a huge toll on individuals than any drug on the market today, and that means a lot coming from an ex-club DJ.

It took a huge personal toll on me. To illustrate the impact it had, let's look at me one year later. When I started playing, I was working towards getting into the best shape of my life (and making good progress, too). Now a year later, I'm about 30 pounds heavier that I was back then, and it is not muscle. I had a lot of hobbies including DJing (which I was pretty accomplished at) and music as well as writing and martial arts. I haven't touched a record or my guitar for over a year and I think if I tried any Kung Fu my gut would throw my back out. Finally, and most significantly, I had a very satisfying social life before. My friends and I would go out and there were things to do every night of the week. Now a year later, I realize my true friends are the greatest people in the world because the fact I came out of my room, turned the lights on, and watched a movie with them still means something. They still are having a great time teasing me at my expense, however, which shows they still love me and they haven't changed.

These changes are miniscule, however, compared to what has happened in quite a few other people's lives. Some background... Blizzard created a game that you simply can not win. Not only that, the only way to "get better" is to play more and more. In order to progress, you have to farm your little heart out in one way or another: either weeks at a time PvPing to make your rank or weeks at a time getting materials for and "conquering" raid instances, or dungeons where you get "epic loot" (pixilated things that increase your abilities, therefore making you "better"). And what do you do after these mighty dungeons fall before you and your friend's wrath? Go back the next week (not sooner, Blizzard made sure you can only raid the best instances once a week) and do it again (imagine if Alexander the Great had to push across the Middle East every damn week).

What does this mean? Well, to our average "serious" player this equates to anywhere between 12 hours (for the casual and usually "useless" player) to honestly 10 hours a day, seven days a week for those "hardcore" gamers. During my stint, I was playing about 30 hours a week (and still finding it hard to keep up with my farming) and logging on during my work day in order to keep up with all the guild happenings and to do my scheduling and tracking for the raids. A lot of time went into the development of new policies which took our friendly and family-oriented guild further and further away from its roots but closer to the end goal. Honestly, what that end goal is I'm not totally sure - there is truly no end to the game and every time you feel like you're satisfied with your progress, another aspect of the game is revealed and, well, you just aren't as cool as you can be again.

There are three problems that arise from WoW: the time it requires to do anything "important" is astounding, it gives people a false sense of accomplishment, and when you're a leader, and get wrapped up in it, no matter how much you care or want people to care, you're doing the wrong thing.

First off, let's go back to the time it takes to accomplish anything in the game. To really be successful, you need to at least invest 12 hours a week, and that is bare minimum. From a leadership perspective, that 12 hours would be laughed at. That's the guy who comes unprepared to raid and has to leave half way through because he has work in the morning or is going out or some other thing that shows "lack of commitment". To the extreme there is the guildie who is always on and ready to help. The "good guildie" who plays about 10 hours a day and seven days a week. Yes, that's almost two full-time jobs. Funny, no one ever asks any questions, though.

The worst though are the people you know have time commitments. People with families and significant others. I am not one to judge a person's situation, but when a father/husband plays a video game all night long, seven days a week, after getting home from work, very involved instances that soak up hours and require concentration, it makes me queasy that I encouraged that. Others include the kids you know aren't doing their homework and confide in you they are failing out of high school or college but don't want to miss their chance at loot, the long-term girl/boyfriend who is skipping out on a date (or their anniversary - I've seen it) to play (and in some cases flirt constantly), the professional taking yet another day off from work to farm mats or grind their reputations up with in-game factions to get "valuable" quest rewards, etc... I'm not one to tell people how to spend their time, but it gets ridiculous when you take a step back.

The game also provides people with a false sense of security, accomplishment, and purpose. Anyone can be a superhero here if they have the time to put in. Not only that, a few times I've seen this breed the "rockstar" personality in people who have no confidence at all in real life. Don't get me wrong, building confidence is a good thing and something, if honed appropriately, the game can do very right. But in more than a few cases, very immature people with bad attitudes are catered to (even after insulting or degrading others "in public") because they are "better" than the rest. Usually this means they played a lot more and have better gear. I'd really hate to see how this "I'm better than you attitude" plays out in real life where it means jack how epic your loot is - when you say the wrong thing to the wrong person it's going to have repercussions and you can't just log out to avoid the effects of your actions.

And people put everything on the line for these accomplishments with which they associate much value. I know of children and spouses being forced to play and grind for their parents, threats of divorce, rampant neglect, failing grades in school, and thousands of dollars spent on "outsourcing" foreign help. For what, you ask? Honor. The desire to be the best for at least one week. To get the best loot in the game. What do these "heroes" receive? Why, cheers and accolades of course as they parade along in their new shiny gear... which is obsolete the first time they step into one of the premier instances. The accomplishment and sacrifice itself are meaningless a few days later. Then it's usually off to the races again.

Finally, when you're a leader there is a call (or more appropriately a demand) for success. Usually those you represent want to keep progressing. They want to keep improving. They want more access to the best things. It is on you to provide it. In my experience, when you fail to progress fast enough, waves ripple throughout the guild and people become dissatisfied. It's your fault, no matter what. Everything you've done to keep things fair and provide for everyone does not mean a damn thing. A few will stand up for you, but when you have 150 people who all want 150 different things, you end up listening to 150 voices complaining about the job you're doing. This volunteer job usually takes at least 10 extra hours a week (on top of regular playing). Towards the end of my year of service, I apparently couldn't do anything right with my class. I had to rotate people to make sure everyone was getting a fair shot. I wrote actual mathematical proofs the allowed for fair and effective (yes, both) raid distribution according to efficiency, speed, and guild class population. I even rotated myself more than any other class member. People still took it upon themselves to tell me what I was doing wrong (constantly) and how their way was more fair (usually for them).

The thing that kicked me in the ass more than anything else was I really cared if my guildies were getting what they wanted out of the experience. I truly thought my efforts would make them happy. I wanted to make a difference to them. The greedy and socially phobic high school kid I thought I could help through the game, all of the couples (both married and not) who were falling apart because of the game I thought I could rescue, the girl who was deeply wounded by a guy who left her for the game but was herself addicted I thought I could save, not to mention a host of others, I thought my efforts were helping. Then it hit me like a ton of bricks: I was providing them with an escape from their problems and nurturing the very thing that was holding them back. Oh yeah, it hit me like a ton of bricks after I had changed so much and lost enough of myself that the most wonderful girl I ever met broke up with me.

I remember clearly after fumbling around life for a few weeks that I dragged myself into the bathroom to get ready for work. I was tired because I was up until close to 2 AM raiding. Every week I read though email or I would run into one of my "real" friends and I'd hear "Andy, what's up, I haven't seen you in a while." I looked in the mirror and in a cinemaesque turn of events and a biblical moment of clarity, told myself "I haven't seen me in a while either."

That did it. I wanted to do the things I wanted to do again and be with the people who appreciated me even if I abandoned them for a year and sucked to high heaven as a friend. The prodigal son returned and my friends were happy. The best advice I got was from the girl who dumped me for being a jackass (and after I decided to really quit and be "myself again" became one of, if not my best friend in the entire world), who said "your real friends like you even when you screw up." It's true.

Funny side note was the reaction I got from the guild that I spent a year pouring my heart and soul into. I made my post in the guild forums saying I was leaving (half of it RPing - something that doesn't happen after you start raiding) and that it was time for me to move on. Three days later I didn't exist any more. The machine kept on moving without this gear. A few people asked me over email (and when I logged on to clean out the old bank) when I was coming back (I'm not going to). There are a few others I keep in contact with and am planning on going to visit sooner or later so I can hang out in person and they can finally meet me. But in the end being forgotten about so soon after still left a bittersweet taste. But one that was a lot easier to swallow than the one I chugged down every day for the better part of a year.

Don't get me wrong, WoW did a lot of things right. At times it was a fun game that allowed me to keep in contact with friends who lived far away. More importantly it introduced me to some of the best real life friends I've ever met. However, it did take an undeniable toll on me and is taking a far greater one on many, many people when taken too far.

Update: Follow up to this here, with clarifications on authorship and some of the more interesting/bizarre comments.

Update 2: For an alternative, positive viewpoint on the game written by the person who told the author to quit, please go here.

Finally, if you'd like to read more about this, I can't recommend the book Game Addiction: The Experience and The Effects by Neils Clark enough. It is a thoroughly researched and balanced piece of work that really examines this issue from all angles. It includes discussions with the writers of both blog posts on this topic.

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Anonymous said...

quitter

Anonymous said...

Thank you for this. Really and truly, this is what I needed. To someone who doesnt play the game it seems to be ridiculous, but t someone who has played...I know. I have blown off homework for WoW. I honestly neglected getting a job this summer so that I could have the time to grind a character to 60. I spent over 200 dollars on power levels and gold....and this jjust helps me realize that its ridiculous....i am pulling the lowest grades i ever have in school right now and for what? Purple items? Ganking? who cares?

Thanks again man, if I can quit, I can say you showed me the light.

Anonymous said...

I hope everyone who reads this takes it to heart!

At some point wow replaces all and you do not even notice!

Till one day you realize your life is similar to a country song, the kind that goes like... my girl left, my boss fired me, my dog ran away and all I have to show for the last year is some purple lewt on a video game character that does squat for me in real life... what ciomes next is your poor and evicted...

None of which happened to me because I quite long ago when I realized 1 hour of gaming in wow equalled 8 hours of real life?! wtf!

/salute

Anonymous said...

I do not play WoW. I don't play any MMORPGs. I hit this post from popurls, and found both the blog and the raging debate fascinating. I've read probably a third of the comments so far, and I wanted to hit on something. There seems to be a cadre of "self-control-don't-blame-the-game" people, and then some "the-game's-addicting-and-here's-why" people.

I think it's important to note that each set of people is right to a degree. No one seems to be challenging the idea that different people have different abilities to control themselves. There are "levels" of self control, and certain individuals are not able to recognize their abandonment of responsibility until well after others have.

No one can dispute, however, that the game is built to capitalize on the human traits that result in getting people addicted. The game makers would be crazy not to, and frankly the developers themselves credit their study of psychology to the success of the game.

I just think it's ridiculous to fall completely into one camp or another. You're both correct. And at the risk of being redundant, cheers to the mate realizing his addiction, and having the "self control" to do something about it.

People need to be more logical, and MUCH more humanistic.

Anonymous said...

Welcome to the club. I gave it up 6 months ago and haven't looked back.

Anonymous said...

I doubt anyone'll read this but to be fairly honest. Life is what you make of it. And i'm satisfied with my life. I play WoW a lot and I lost all connection to the outer world. My friends seem to grow further and further away from me. I liked your story, and somehow it makes me feel sick, seeing as how my /played is now 211 days. I probably am sick. I've had those "look in the mirror" moments, where all i'm thinking is "I'm pathetic" whereafter i go back to my computer, pop open the next gallon of soda to level another alt that will never hit 60, but I do it just to kill time.

Anonymous said...

Your dumb, learn to do things in moderation. You cop out on blaming the game when in reality your just an addict.

Anonymous said...

70+ hours? There's a Multi-User Dungeon (MUD) I used to play back in 1995 all Text-based game named dragonheart. I remember my online time being well over 100 days online.

Addiction? Well, I think it is the Competition that keep people playing so much. I hear that there are people in China that spend all day playing so they can sell their characters. Is th is true?

Anonymous said...

"I gave up the game and never looked back"...

LOL -- ya that's why you're still reading articles on WoW.

Anonymous said...

I left my girlfriend of two years for a girl I met in WoW. I thought it was perfect, except she was 17 and I am 20. She ended up falling for a 35 year old(she met in game of course). He recently met her Mom and they've plans to be married. Ultimately that drama is why I quit, and I wasn't the only one. I knew many people with very similar happenings in their life. It's tragic how much that game takes from you before you even realize it.

Anonymous said...

I was a leader f a 150man guild that was second best on a server. My story goes the same as yours. Lost my RL project motivation, girlfriend, social life, etc.
I have over 150 /played on my 'main' and easily near 40 or 50 on others, and I played friends' often. Its kind of insane thinking an entire year was spent in that world.

I've slept with 2 girls I met in game. I actually WROTE a raid/dkp tracking system like ebay, which I sell monthly subscriptions to...

I play about 4 hours a week now.
I agreed with these other people that it was SELF DISCIPLINE I needed to learn. And prioritization. I was good at leading, but only if I gave it my life. So I gave up things in game slowly and gained the real life things I wanted back slowly.

I no longer lead a guild, although I do help make decisions for one. I post on forums occassionally, but not incessantly. And I think this skill I learned instead of just dropping it entirely via disenchant suicide has taught me a level of self discipline that I can apply in other areas of life as well.

The thing is that I found it no different than a pro-sport player who trains and practices 10 hours a day also... at the higher levels it is VERY competetive just like any RL sport. However, RL sports are more fun imo =)

Anonymous said...

i think youre a dumb nigger.

gdiaf quitter

Anonymous said...

No, no, no, no, no! You guys have it all wrong! We should all thank wow for getting all the nerds out of our sight. I'd say "welcome back, homeslice"... but the truth is... most of the level 60 "addicts" are better of hidden in the darkness of their parents basement. I'm starting a new movement right here, right now. It's called KEEP THE NERDS IN WOW AND OFF THE STREETS. NERDS SMELL AND ARE SMARTER THEN US. If they're all addicted to Wow, we live in a nerd-free world, dig?

Anonymous said...

I see MMOG’s as a sort of social natural selection. It weeds out the social rejects and keeps them closeted inside their own homes and saves me from having to ever interact with them in any meaningful manner.

MMOG’s should be praised for their service to society and not blamed for ruining the lives of idiots.

Anonymous said...

Great post and interesting responses. As a Wowcrack player myself, I have also dabbled in other MMORPG's as well over the years.

They have never ruined my life, made me get fat, neglect my girlfriends, friends & family, job, hobbies etc etc

But that's just me. Some people can do things in moderation, other people can't. The thing to remember is that's just where some people are at in their life. Obviously something is shitty or lacking and they need an ecape; perhaps it's just the result having an addictive personality.

Whatever the case, this has been merely a story of someone that lost some of his life, but woke up and took it back. Feel sorry for the people who will never find balance in their life nor wake-up from the pixilated drugs flowing in their veins.

Shit happens. And there are way worse things you can destroy your life with. Gamer junkies aren't beating people, robbing, raping or killing. Neglect is their only sin, and it generally bites them on the arse more than others.

So reformed WoWers and gamers everywhere, go easy on yourselves and remember you're only human. Compassion is all we should have for them, and appreciation of their enlightenment. And if you are happy losing yourself in a world of fantasy and to let your whole life slip through you fingers, enjoy.

Anonymous said...

Sounds like Blizzard created a virtual rat race. I'm glad I don't play, I guess. I keep my total gaming to 5 or so hours a week or less- I've got a life. I'm glad to hear the you do too.

Anonymous said...

I played WoW for about 1 1/2 years, and finally quit two months ago. Why?

I'm psychotic, for really and truly. I suffer from psychosis. What is psychosis? It's an overactive and violent imagination that leads one to action, usually something violent, or a reaction to the violence in their mind, such as a panic attack. In other words, it's when the escape becomes more real than the reality.

I found myself playing at 6am one morning (again) and realized that I didn't even like the game any more, and that I hadn't for a long time. It wasn't fun, nor was it even entertaining... it was a prison that I had locked myself into. I didn't have a real life any more. My escape had become more real than reality. Realizing that I take expensive pills to avoid this kind of thing, I decided to quit.

When a game is destroying that which will still matter in two years, it's never worth it. Same as any drug or anything. Maybe it is the addict's fault, but WoW has more than 200,000 subscribers now if I remember correctly. Even taking into account that most of those people "could quit at any time" (like an alcoholic), that's a lot of addicts in one game, and I think it says something either about our nature as humans (i.e. we are all addicts) or the addictive nature of WoW. Did you know rats also get addicted to the drugs that the lab techs feed them? They don't have to choose to eat them in the first place... but who's really at fault here? Just a thought.

And yeah... it's a good thing that we have WoW to keep all the nerds closeted away where we cool bloggers won't have to look at them. Oh, wait...

Anonymous said...

Ach, WoW just didnt seem fun to me at all, I think I got a whole 5 hours into it before I realized that it would just be an endless maze of quests and killing, I could never see getting "addicted" to it.
Anyways, video games are just an escape as any other form of entertainment, you really shouldn't care so much as to get addicted to it. I mean, just because u can become really high levels and get 'cool' armor doesn't really gain esteem. You should just play video games as they are meant, moments in time to escape. There really is no reason that most people are 'overdoing it' by doing 3 hours a day. Is that necessarily worse than some1 watching tv for 3 hours? I dont believe so.

Anonymous said...

What a fucking looser you are...
I have been playing wow since it came out, and I also train bodybuilding professionally and have a wonderful girlfriend.
How can you blame the game??
Seriously it's just a game, the kinda game you play on your spare time. If you can't handle playing just from time to time then quit...
You dont seem to realise that the only thing lacking is your own will, or discipline to quit.
So you are the looser moron who can't quit in time. Don't blame wow for your own perosnal failures.
Grow the fuck up....

Anonymous said...

One can still play for fun.
I play 2 days a week (3-4 hours) just to meet the great guys in our little guild.

Raid a little. And that is it.

One can smoke a cigarette every 2 days ore smoke his lungs out. It's just a question of doing it for the enjoyment or loosing control.

Anonymous said...

One can still play for fun.
I play 2 days a week (3-4 hours) just to meet the great guys in our little guild.

Raid a little. And that is it.

One can smoke a cigarette every 2 days ore smoke his lungs out. It's just a question of doing it for the enjoyment or loosing control.

Anonymous said...

As a WoW player who has played since releace and has a 60 Hunter and a 51 mage and a bunch of 20 level toons and i only play twice a week I keep my full time Job watch TV with my family. I find it pathetic when poeple claim that a game ruined their life, it was not a game it was their choises. The day WoW or any other game becomes more important to me than my family I want someone to put a bullet in me. This the problem withthe wrold today no one takes responisbility for thier choices its aways someone elses fault SWG made me loos emy wife EQ made me loose my job WoW made me a zombie its the same old story when all along it was the persons fault not the game. a few years back when I was playing EQ some kid commited suicide and despite the fact that the boy was mentaly ill, his mother blamed sony she writes a blog about it now that she lost her case. Please dont blame a game or anything else becsaue you have no self control... there are thousands or maybe even hundreds of thousand who still have normal lives despite the fact that they play online games.

This week I have been in wow maybe 2 hours and SWG 4 I have watch no less than 3 tv shows and 2 movies with my wife and kids I have been to work everyday and I cooked dinner last night and tonight monday I went out friday Iam going otthe state fair I have a normal life and do normal things and dont waste away in fromy of my PC playing dispite the fact that I have succesfull characters in 2 online game.
chuck

Anonymous said...

There's one human craving this game caters to, which I don't think anyone's discussed: a beautiful natural landscape.

For at least 90% of players, if they go outside they're confronted with identical urban/suburban boxes as far as the eye can see. Grit and smog. In the game there are open skies, pristine rivers, towering trees.

"The fetish is the embodiment of a lie that enables us to endure an unbearable truth."

And that's the case for any obsession. Rather than blame the player's lack of self control, we should ask why this game is more interesting than anything else modern life offers.

Anonymous said...

As much as I dont want to admit it. This game has completely taken control of my life. I spent countless hours sitting around online waiting for something to happen. The game was my escape from every little shitty thing i didnt want to deal with. As a result I completely disassociated myself with friends and family, baracading myself in my room until 3 am playing my internet character. What worse is the game no longer just took over the nighttime, but I found myself up before classes grinding it out on battle grounds just for that tiny spec of reputation which I thought would make me contempt. But, it never ended, it hasnt. I kicked the game for a couple months and found myself back at it, worse than before and completely lost track of the initial reason I played, which was to stay in touch and have a fun time with my real life friends around the states. It wasnt long before we all moved on, switching servers, factions, and guilds every few months.

This blog was uplifting, I too look forward to breaking the habit and getting back into the everyday things which I hid from for so long.

Anonymous said...

I think it's interesting the hostility of the response you've gotten from some folks.

I don't really know enough about psychology to give this it's proper name, but it sounds like folks trying to convince themselves that they're not addicted, too.

So many folks angrily listing all the stuff they can still do, yet still have time to play the game a good 12 hours or so per week.

Looks like your post hit a little too close to home.

Anonymous said...

Bah. Good post, but blaming a video game for your inability to maintain control over your actions speaks loudly that you do not accept responsibility for your actions. Saying "Wow ruined my life." is incorrect. The correct answer is, "I let WoW ruin my life." It's always a choice. WoW doesn't force you at gunpoint to sit in your chair and play it. Take responsibility for your actions, people. So many times I see people pointing the finger at this and that to try and justify thier actions, or thier inability to moderate their own behavior. That's so irresonsible, but it's America, where our favorite past time is pointing a finger and suing every Joe-Bob product that we couldn't use with moderation. Pffft.

Anonymous said...

Bah. Good post, but blaming a video game for your inability to maintain control over your actions speaks loudly that you do not accept responsibility for your actions. Saying "Wow ruined my life." is incorrect. The correct answer is, "I let WoW ruin my life." It's always a choice. WoW doesn't force you at gunpoint to sit in your chair and play it. Take responsibility for your actions, people. So many times I see people pointing the finger at this and that to try and justify thier actions, or thier inability to moderate their own behavior. That's so irresonsible, but it's America, where our favorite past time is pointing a finger and suing every Joe-Bob product that we couldn't use with moderation. Pffft.

Anonymous said...

To all of those who claim you're NOT addicted: delete your accounts.

If it's so easy, if it's just a game, delete your accounts. It shouldn't effect you.

I can guarantee you that such a thought has given you heart palpitations.

You're addicted too. So ease up on the guy for eloquently sharing his experiences.

Anonymous said...

Wow is certainly addictive, but to say it is more debilitative than drugs or alcohol? Thats a very extreme thing to say. The worst thing wow can do is waste your time and degrade your health. One primary difference being that with WoW you are forced to seek out your addiction in the presence of others, and sometimes(not always) this equates to a certain amount of social pressure that triggers self-evaluation. WoW won't kill you, and WoW will not rot your veins, or slow your mind. Although it may be addictive, socially destructive, and contributes greatly to general public inaction towards important matters, it is not comparable to drugs and alcohol. And no, WoW can't ruin your life "you LET WoW ruin your life."

Anonymous said...

That's true.. I myself playing Wow too for 1yr+, I was totally obssessed with the game initially and often go work in the morning without sleep, until my bf actaully quit job and played full time which I'm totally disgusted with, then I slowly move back to my normal social life.

I'm back with the game again after couple of months of socialize with real life ppl, but I'm not so 'committed' as before, but like what you've said, if I say: hey, its 12+am already, I got to go work tomorrow, so I can't go to instances and my guildmates will boooo at me and says: we got to work too, but the problem is.. the difference btw our work is, I don't slack around in office and surfing net and doing nothing.. (my frds are server engineer, so they just need to work if server got problem), I need full concentration.. and slowly of coz.. the guild members will consider you as.. inactive.. not commited.. which I think.. it's kind of weird har?

I mean.. game is suppose to be relaxing but we can see lotsa '12 year old kids' who treat wow as their life and we can see lotsa idiotic ppl around? who got simply no life, and tease at ppl, lauff at ppl just because others are lower level than them or they've got better armours than others? This is absurb.. I've met few ppl in game who's wearing like Tier-2 or Tier-1 armour and laugh at me coz I'm wearing a Tier-0 and says I'm wearing shitty armours.. oops.. sorry.. got alittle out of point.. what i'm saying is.. I think this game is too addictive.. until.. ppl tend to mix up reality and game.. I see my frds playing non stop, and stop working coz of that.. I feel kinda sad actually..

Game is suppose to be played when you've free time and.. suppose to be relaxing.. but it seems to be alittle too much stress

Anonymous said...

"It is not comparable to a drug addiction in any way. It's not physical, it's mental. You had the choice to stop at any time. It's only when people started disrespecting your power that you gave up."

Yhen what is Gambling addiction? You aren't shooting up or inhaling. Addiction to gaming is like addiction to Gambling and will destroy just as many lives

Anonymous said...

This is about messed up. I am Andy and ya know, I said good bye to a game tonight as well. This helped me out alot coming out of the game only 1 hour ago!

Anonymous said...

@tawnee:
Gambling addiction will replace food in the fridge for a few bucks at the casino, WoW doesn't do that.

Anonymous said...

There is a lot of truth to that story, WoW is nothing more than a virtual game that people play (sometimes in excess). Victories, defeats, accomplishments, progress, etc. that occur in that game extend no further than the space between the player and their monitors. All of it does not really exist nor hold much value in the real world..being that as it may, the writer of that article seems to put an awful lot of blame for his misfortunes and mishaps on that, which he emphasizes and reiterates, as something that is "non-existant" in the real world. "Don't blame the player, blame the game" does not apply here btw..

Anonymous said...

I've been playing WoW for just over a year.... I started when I had to move overseas for a couple of years, one day my friend rang me up and reccomended the game. It was a great way to stay in touch. I am part of a pretty casual raiding guild, I may raid 2-4 times in four weeks.... concentrating on my upcoming exams at the moment but that doesn't mean I can't find a few hours to PvP with my friends *smiles*

Anonymous said...

I find it real interesting that the word "leadership" and "leader" is being bandied in this tale of video game addiction.

A leader to me is a platoon sergeant or platoon commander. A real person with responsibility for real lives. Not some social flake that hordes digital loot and decides who is getting the latest "phat drop."

Anonymous said...

First off, i feel bad that you feel your leadership position truly encouraged the people in your guild to act in the manner they did. I have to assume these people would have done whatever they were doing with or without your presence. Do not blame yourself for others' mishaps in self control and priorities.

Second, while i agree that WoW can erode some people's social lives, it has most definately not done so in my own case. I bought this game approximately 3 months after 2 of my best friends had bought it (which was exactly at release) and basically play to be with them in game almost exclusively. I pvped casually, i raided, but when one of us decided a character or server was just not cutting it, we stuck together.

Mind you, this doesn't mean we abandoned our real life interaction, i probably see my friends less because of my girlfriend than i do because of WoW.
Speaking of which, i am 22 and have a relationship that has been going for 6 years (last weekend). I will not lie and tell you i haven't fought with her over this game. I look at it in the way that WoW is something i like to do that she doesn't, Watching TV drama is something that she likes to do that i don't. I see no reason why she should quit watching tv because i don't like to do it, ergo why should i quit WoW? We have to a good degree come to an agreement on this subject, largely impacted by the fact that i have given up raiding anything above 10 man instances (i have an epic'd hunter, I plan on rolling a BE pally in the expansion for the exclusive purpose of PVP which will be much more casually approachable).

School... ehhh, well im a slacker and always have been, WoW didn't add or subtract to that. Recently i have sucked it up and undergone the necessary steps for me to begin the professional level of the education school at my university so i would say i am being more productive now than i have ever been. Not to mention i still work part time (very very part time mind you) and tutor.

To wrap this up, WoW can impact your life if you let it. Approach it as a real activity, as much so if not more so than merely watching tv. How many people just sit there and watch tv all the damned time? Alot. This got long but essentially my point is that i live life and play WoW, and i don't even find it difficult in the least. It's all in who you are, people that are addicted to WoW because they want to escape reality would probably escape reality in some other form were the Blizzard offices and servers to be nuked by angry girlfriends across the globe.

Doom doesn't make kids violent.
But violent kids are attracted to a game like Doom.

Anonymous said...

WoW? You should just be an alcoholic instead! At least then you're socially acceptable no matter where you go. After all, you're just being 'fun' then.... :( ...i really do cry when i masturbate.

Anonymous said...

I'm pleased that you have seen some sense. How about designing a game where you can meet people online for a few minutes each day and try to improve your own 'real' life and not a fantasy life. You could call it 'get a real life'

Anonymous said...

Anything can be a time sink and trying to focus all your problems are related to the game is quite funny. How many lifes has ruined Professional Sports (basket, football, soccer...)?? How many people reach the top at that, and how many people wastes his lifes trying it?

Power is nothing without control, so, maybe your problem is the control, not the power of the game.

BTW I'm the GM of a 300++ highend guild at WoW and I feel happy, still meet all my real life friends (some of them have been kicked by my own from this guild ^^) and doing all the things I want without keeping me apart from Chtun & Naxx

Remember, Power is nothing without control, goodluck at your new life!

Anonymous said...

Thank yo uso much for that.

Really made my whole WoW life complete.

Anonymous said...

By any standards I guess I'm a noob, but I've played for over a year, several 60's on different servers etc. I finally felt like I'd wasted too much time and quit, then got lured back by friends after about 3 months. I make a point of only playing a little now, and I've been mainly devoting myself to other things - night class, learning an instrument, martial arts. I still play a bit, but for me those other things just feel more productive, and I'm not ashamed to talk about them in the pub. We all have hobbies, but ones that better yourself are more worthwhile IMHO.

Flame me if you want, I couldn't give a toss.

Anonymous said...

I sense that some people still aren't being truthful in this thread so I'm going to come out and say this:

My life was a mess before I played WoW. I played for about 3 months before I got bored and cancelled. Unsurprisingly my life is still a mess after. I am completely and utterly undeserving of sympathy because my predicament is entirely my own doing.

There are plenty of people who play these games to escape having to deal with their shitty lives. Perhaps following a path of self destruction is all some of us deserve.

But hey, I salute anyone who can be honest with ones self - it's always a good start.

Anonymous said...

Excellent article in the end it's just a game.

Anonymous said...

I have to say I'm glad you found a way out of your addicting behavior. But I love the game. My wife and son both play. It is true family time for us. We have basic rules though. The game does not come on until my son is done is homework. The game gets turned off by 10pm on a week nights and 11pm on weekends.

You have mentioned every bad thing about the game but I have to mention some good things. How many parents have a teenage son who want to spend time with them? We do. We also share gaming magazines (GM, EGM, etc). Gaming has meant a great deal to my family. It is not the only thing though. We still go to everyone of my son's football games and any day my son does not have football practice, we go to Golds Gym together.

What I am saying is if you keep your priorities in sight, you can use gaming as a good family experience. I hope your life improves the way you need it to but I for one am very greatful to Blizzard for this game that has given us a family hobby.

Anonymous said...

I watched a friend be deeply hurt by someone who put WoW ahead of real world relationships. She likened being a guild leader in WoW to being a boyscout leader. The sad thing is that now WoW is eating up ever more of her time and now she's crying about how the guild members are needy and ungrateful. If she'd had a brain and some self control she'd have quit the game when her boyfriend of 4 years left her for a guildmate and then she managed to hurt someone else with her addiction. Unfortunately she's still addicted. She can't seem to see what she's doing to her life. The sad and ironic thing...she has a link to this blog post on her LJ blog.

Anonymous said...

I quit WoW for the same reason, will let my friends read this to make sure they quit too! well said

Anonymous said...

I must say it is a nice column to read and you got some good points. But you blame the game, and it is always easy to blame the game/or something else instead of looking to yourself.

That's like blaming nicotine for making you addicted to sigarets. But nicotine is just a part of it. People start smoking to lose stress, forget about their problems for a while etc etc. You also pointed that out people are escaping reality because they don't like it.

But if they don't do it with WoW they will do it with something else, heroine, alcohol, or others things. I think people can also next to enjoy the game learn something from it although they are escaping reality.

But yes the problems lies in the escaping part, how can you get into someone to show him/her why he is playing the game so diehard.

Im playing in a highend pve guild, not that diehard as some orders, but fine enough for me. I already stopped giving from loot, I already asked myself why I am still playing. I like too many people I play with online, and it is easier to make contact with them than in Real life. I still have a 'real life' I follow every schoollesson, go out with friends in the weekends, but still I play the game much..

I asked myself why? First of all because it is better and more addicting than other games but as a normal guildie I dont get a lot of stress of it. Before WoW I worked like 8 hours aday next to my school on a gamingsite, running it, managing it, it was really smoking me up. I took the hard decission to stop with it, and took WoW for it in the place. It gives me more enjoyment and fun than the gamingsite.

I also dunno what I would do if I didnt play wow when Im finished wtih my homework. Watch TV? Hang out on the street with other teeners.. I dont think that would make me a better man than I am while playing WoW.

But people got to find a guild that suits there real life situation. And keep an eye on themself it they play the game too much, you won't fix your real life with WoW and that is for sure :) You got that straight to the point. I only don't agree with you on the fact to blame the game for it, rather blame the persons.

Anonymous said...

Nice read! ( you got talent for writing imo, keep it up )

Ive been playing the game for one year, about 4 hours every day now, and (no i'm not ashamed) i haven't got a char on lvl 60 yet. Why? Because i play with my RL friends, whom i see on school every day; we play together because in our neightborhood you can't do shit, and thus is serves as our place of 'hanging out'. At the same time, i've got a job and a GF, and i'm perfectly happy. My point is: it's all about priorities. Think about what's really important to you guys!

Anonymous said...

I quit WOW myself last week after 18 month of 10 to 12 hours playing per week.

reasons were that I already involved to much time in the game. For the moment I feel like I did the right thing, and will do my best not to get back there...I just need to find something that will take me 10 to 12 hours per week and is not an MMORPG :)

Anonymous said...

I find it ironic that people who play video games are coming here and calling this guy a loser for not having any self control. This is like the chess club making fun of the glee club. You are all dorks but at least this guy escaped.

Anonymous said...

as a recovering WoW noob i know first hand the truth to this post. one woman i met called herself the 'world of warcraft widow' because her husband played so much she felt she lost him to the game, and ended up starting her own character.

a former guildy was a husband and father who was unemployed. he reached grand marshall, and bought his 9 year old son a lvl 60 rogue.

kudos for getting out, if there's one way to waste your life, it's through gaming...

Anonymous said...

Pretty weak post calling out for .. what. I don't know. Sympathy? Sure. Bravo on pulling away from something you had a lack of discipline to control, and you say you were a martial artist? Two months of a martial arts doesn't make you one, and an experienced martial artist has self-discipline.

I have played WoW since it came out, before even, with the Beta.

I have a 1st Degree in Judo, Tae Kwon Do, and am working on my third school going for my Black Belt in Karate within the next few months.

I play WoW at least 4 nights a week from 9pm-1am and still manage to continue life normally.

I work at IBM from 8-4, come home, eat, go to karate from 6-8, come home, shower, get online for 4 hours of high end raiding. I'm 8/8 T2 and 3/9 T3 epics in the #4 guild of a server called Black Dragonflight in a guild called nOObz.

I don't raid on weekends, I spend that time with my friends who live an hour away from me, so the "friends living far away" isn't an excuse.

I'm also 5'11 and in excellent shape at just under 175 pounds.

I guess it just takes a disciplined mind and the maturity to be motivated enough to be proactive.

It's a shame that people must post this drivel to say "HEY! I QUIT AN ADDICTION!! CHEER FOR ME PLEASE AND SHOW ME HOW MUCH I RULE!"

kthxbuhbye.

Speedywild from BDF
60 Resto Druid.

Anonymous said...

Geez, what a rambling tirade.

Everything on this planet is designed as a no-win situation, just think about that in 2 years when you are sitting in a cube farm somewhere "engineering" the next product that is designed to "break" after 8 months of normal use.

Anonymous said...

I just wanna thank you for this post it has lighted up my brain... Maybe i should stop playing WoW... Yea i have to...

Anonymous said...

Were you an engineer in WoW too? Sorry, I couldn't resist. A very good read and a nice perspective (and very accurate I might add) into the end-game area of WoW. I'm at the end-game of WoW right now, and I must say, it's not as appealing to me as I was told. I'm what you described as the "casual" or crap player. I used to play WoW about 10-14 hours a day. Now that I can't level up anymore, that's gone down to maybe 6-7 a week. I'm also not a leader, or officer, in my guild though, so I guess that's part of the reason. I've been considering canceling my subscription until the expansion comes out anyway...I'm sorry, I'm rambling about myself. Didn't mean to do that. Anyway, that was a very interesting story and very well written. Good luck in everything man.

Anonymous said...

UMm
I thought games were a past time.
WoW is what i use when the kids are at fencing and im done on the tread mill / weights.
I could watch TV but there are not a lot of good shows on.
Sometimes the kids will spend the night over at grandmas and my wife will putter around the house cleaning and doing odd things and ill be bored so i go play WoW.
Before that it was DAoC and before that Asheron's Call.

Its all about perspective.
I dont have to have the purple gear some one else has.
I might Raid twice a week and get some gear but im happy to get new gear i dont care that others have had it and upgraded already.

Play for the right reasons.
if you cant play something else.

Mizu
Druid
Irontree
Lightninghoof

Anonymous said...

'nuff said.

Shimizu said...
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Shimizu said...

To those flaming the poster, take a long hard look. While yes, it is possible to play these sorts of games (and I am by no means blaming WoW -- this goes for any game or activity or hobby that is as life consuming as in this example ) -- while maintaining a social life, healthy marriage, job, etc. (whatever) the point is one that is important to listen to. 10 hours a day, 7 days a week is in fact almost two full time jobs. You have only so many hours a day to do this thing that you call 'life' -- if you enjoy spending it in the game, good for you. If you have no friends outside the game, and you are happy, fine. Its your choice. But for many people who do have to work full time, or go to school, or have other obligations, this sort of gaming addiction is a real problem. And when you get down to the core of the matter, what do you really accomplish? Prettier pixels to look at an imaginary character of you in an imaginary world. Is it worth it? Maybe for some. That's kind of the point here.

No one is blaming WoW for sucking them in. Yes there is free will. Yes there is personal choice. The statement is simply that the nature of the game is that it is time consuming. It is designed that way intentionally, to increase revenue from longer subscriptions. If you could complete everything in the game playing a couple hours a night for a few months, then there would be no revenue. Its simple economics.

Think of the tobacco industry whose profits are based on the fact that its 'subscribers' are addicted to the product. Same concept. You can raise the price, people will still participate. In fact, the tolerance that people have vs. lag, downtime, lack of customer service, etc. are all quickly forgiven because of ADDICTION.

Now the point has been made that it is better for a child to be playing this 10 hours a day than out on the street, doing drugs and joining a gang. I agree wholeheartedly. But let us always remember to recognize that this is a game designed for entertainment, not a virtual world to replace the real one.

I didn't see this as anyone blaming Blizzard, or WoW, for making an addicting product. I saw it more as someone standing before a community of gamers and talking about the negative effects caused by this 'habit' on his life, warning them from the same course. Isn't that what humans do, in these sorts of situations? Support Groups, Alcoholics Anonymous, etc. etc. No one's blaming the alcohol and everyone admits that it was your free choice to drink. You picked up the bottle, you put it to your lips, again and again and again. And anyone who says otherwise is just in denial, looking to shift the blame for their own actions to an object.

But that isn't what I interpreted from this article. It was a story of experience, a narrative, with a warning included and a moral at the end. Make of it what you will, see the truth in it for what it is.

Remember that denying there is a problem doesnt make the problem go away, and enough people have responded to this post saying "Wow, yeah, this happened to someone I knew, to my friend, to my husband or wife, to myself .." that we as a society have to admit that the problem exists.

It isn't just WoW. Apply this to anything addicting. To other MMOs. To collectible card games. To any hobby at all. When it consumes and blots out your life, you need to step back and analyze what it is you want.

Are you happy with all of your friends being virtual? Maybe you don't know their real names maybe you do. I've been there. And I was happy there, wrapped in my warm little cocoon of online gaming heaven, queen of my tree stump with all the shiny sparkly online bling that I could possibly ever want. I missed my best friends 21st birthday party because I had a raid that night. I missed my parents 25th anniversary because a contested raid mob was up. At some point you have to decide what is more important to you, and I did. I rejected the real world in favor of the game world because sometimes, you're real world isn't that pretty and who cares if you cast it off right?

Its possible to live inside the furnace and never want to come out. Till your wrists ache from 19 hours a day in the same position over the keys and mouse and your neck and back are sore from the computer chair. And maybe you like it that way, maybe this is all you need to feel fulfilled- but it isn't about you. Its about the people who care about you watching you withdraw deeper and deeper into a private universe, maybe your health deteriorates, maybe you get apathetic about everything else in life, the symptoms are different for all of us.

When it started to hurt the people I loved I dropped it like a bad habit. Because while it may be your free will to do whatever you want with your life, you have no right to make that decision for anyone other than yourself.

I'm not warning you to stay away from online games. Hell, I still play them as much as ever. Just try to keep a perspective and don't let it overwhelm your entire existence. If you're strong enough to keep it in its proper place then by all means. If you're not well, as the author up here said, you need to step back and take a look at what you're doing.

I work 7am to 6pm monday through friday, a few hours of gaming in the evening before I have to go to bed, and then play on the weekends. Once a month or so I'll spend a weekend doing something with my friends or family maintaining my connection to the real world. If there's a raid, or an In Game Event ...well...I miss it.

It feels good to play a game again instead of being played by one.

Anonymous said...

after playing for a while, i learned that the game was, in fact, for fags.

Anonymous said...

State of MMORPG's

Lords of the Dead is a Player vs Player Guild that was formed in 1995. We do have a chapter that plays WoW, and we've been highly competitive in all the previous MMORPG's we've played. We've beta and alpha tested many of the great games that came before WoW, and we hope to get inside future games such as Fury and Warhammer.

However we do agree that the MMORPG market isn't what it used to be because its promoting games that are nothing but vast time sinks, and using those time sinks to keep you around rather than developing new features that would actually be fun.

You used to be able to play games 12-15 hours a week and be extremely competitive, there used to be more solo content, and there used to be a lot of random loot generation and crafting to keep people busy.

With the average PC Gamer being 30+, the developers are at risk of leaving their most loyal fans behind.

Anonymous said...

This article really hits the nail on the head. I have a friend who is totally addicted to Warcraft, and bases our social visits around the game. "I can't hang out past seven, I gotta meet my guild then" or the infamous no-show because he got caught up in a raid.

This game is like everything else. People are addicted to sports, cars, music, whatever. It's self control. This game really allows people to transform themselves into somebody else. I think that is where the lure lies. Being the big hero on the game doesn't mean anything, but it satisfies the idea that you need to be one in real life but can't be.

Anonymous said...

The problem with games like WoW is that they are too easy not too difficult. Take a game like Earth and Beyond and that was one which took some real effort to advance.

Also the problem with many games now is that you need to party with so many crappy players to continue to advance... that just shouldn't be the case. And let people sell crap on ebay so we can justify the time that is put into the game. Blizzard pricks just couldn't figure that out.

Anonymous said...

Don't give the game a bad rap simply because you spent a year in denial about your delusion of self-importance. Like so many sheep, people are going to latch onto this blog like the word of God because it provides a simple truth of addition to the natural human desire to feel important and respected.

Applauding someone for growing as a person is acceptable...but the blogger above is still stuck in his own delusion of importance and knowing whats best for other people that made him a class leader to begin with.


-Aaron

Anonymous said...

The problem with the game is imo that you can get away with casually making your way to lvl 60, but then have some hard choices to make - reroll a new class and start the grind again (not much fun), get into a Guild and tackle the endgame (which imo requires upwards of 20hours a week minimum), or grind honour in the BG's (which to reach Rank 14 requires 6months of your life's waking hours)

The problem is that the game leads the casual gamer to an impasse, where one must quit or devote much more time to it.

I will try TBC but am really thinking of knocking it on the head soon.

Anonymous said...

I'm not a former WoW player. I used to play City of Heroes. For a year and a half, I did everything that the person who write this article did.

When I came back from it, left it behind, my friends welcomed me. My fiancée forgave me.

Quitting was one of the best things I ever did, and I applaud anyone who can admit that what they did was wrong, and make the committment to change their ways.

Anonymous said...

I stopped reading when you said 30 hours a week. You may be in a great guild, but how can you possibly call yourself hardcore? 4.5 hours a day? Is World of Warcraft really that easy? Oh, wait, yes it is.

30 hours a week is middle-ground casual in my opinion.

Anonymous said...

The naysayers still don't get it; and it's really pissing me off.

Look people, part of admitting you have a problem and recovering from it is taking responsibility for your own actions. No one is blaming WoW.

Some of your attitudes are repulsive. You don't walk up to a recovered addict and accuse them of blaming the substance and demand they take responsibility for themselves... it's demeaning; they already have taken responsibility, you numbskulls.

And frankly, I can sense the cognitive disonance of some of you... right through the internet connection.

Even if you don't have "a problem," you don't like to hear that the 8-10 hours you put in on WoW every week is a waste of time. So you slam on this guy's post.

Let me put it square to the punks commenting here... if you spend even 8-10 hours a week on WoW, you're wasting time. If you have that time to waste, you either have no real responsibilities, or you're slacking something in real life.

Anonymous said...

"Let me put it square to the punks commenting here... if you spend even 8-10 hours a week on WoW, you're wasting time. If you have that time to waste, you either have no real responsibilities, or you're slacking something in real life."

Or it could be that SOME of us worked hard while we were young, went to school, got REAL degrees that meant something instead of the fodder that's out there and now can live our lives how we want, play as much as we want, and just love to jump on the dumbasses that played too much in school and thought they could keep doing the same thing in their later lives.

LOL

Wake up call Johnny! Time to wake up and smell the $10 an hour dead-end job you're stuck in.

No, you don't have the time to dedicate to WoW. You're too busy trying to make ends meet.

No, you can't pass Go...you don't get to collect your $200...now get back in that kitchen and make me some goddamn burgers, McDonald's Boy! And those fries better be FRESH!

And just for giggles, throw an in-game memorial for a buddy who died plz? We cater to those things.

~Speedywild

Anonymous said...

Quoted: And when you get down to the core of the matter, what do you really accomplish? Prettier pixels to look at an imaginary character of you in an imaginary world. Is it worth it? Maybe for some. That's kind of the point here.

This brings up the question, what do you call an acomplishment in rl then? Getting a wife, getting kids, raise them hope they don't get addicted to drugs, alcohol, games, or join the army to get shot by a hakbar.

Or is making money and raising in the social standard something you can call an acccomplish in rl?

I think there is too much shit in this world for some people to handle, they don't have enough selfconfidence to ask a girl on a date, they don't know how to behave when women are near. These people cannot accomplish the first thing.

Sure they can make money but would that make them happy.

Im only 18 and enjoying my life as much as I can, and playing games is one thing of that next to going out with friends and going to school.

But for some people that can't accomplish things in real life, but can do it in a game. I can understand that makes it everything for them. Maybe it is not fair to call them addicts, since they found something they would never achieve in rl. Maybe it are only pixels for you but not for them.

Anonymous said...

You said you can't win WoW. Well, you can't win practicing kung fu either -- you can always get better. If you chose WoW over kung fu, it's YOUR OWN FAULT. If you chose to be a guild leader and devise loot formulas over being in a Wushu competition team or running a school, it's also your fault.

I don't envy guild leaders, but everyone just needs to quit huffing the purple dust, can the l33tboy attitude, and play the damn game.

Anonymous said...

Wow...sounds almost like I could have written this original post. Ran a huge guild, lost RL friends because of it, got involved in an affair with the other guild master, quit the game for 2 months. Started playing again at the suggestion of some friends on a new server...and it all started over again. Another affair, a messed up marriage, lost the girl, quit the game.

I am not blaming WoW for this...my personality is just not built for this sort of thing. But I do hope that anyone that sees a bit of themselves in the original post takes a step back and evaluates themselves and their gaming habits. Learn from others before you find yourself in the same position.

Anonymous said...

Thank you for writing this.. i'm going to pass it on to my brother. He's finally gotten a r/l job.. but for a couple years now WoW seems to be his life. Even now all he does with his spare time is play. No girlfriend, no other friends, no motivation to do anything.

Anonymous said...

I didn't think anyone felt the same way about this. I too was in a high end guild, I saw lots of naxx and enjoyed it. But the same moment happened where I asked, who am I? Where did I go? lol

Glad to see you made it out.

-B

Anonymous said...

Honestly Speedywild, what kind of responsibilities do you have, such that you can waste even 10 hours a week playing games?

Even before I was working on my master's degree, I didn't have that kind of free time (I don't have a television, either... so I don't waste it there).

Throw kids into the mix and I can't even imagine. Most parents don't spend 8-10 hours per week with their kids... and there's people spending way more here.

Lachlan said...

Hey, You probably don't read these comments anymore, but I'd been thinking about doing what you've done for some time.
I don't think I need to anymore. Soon I'll just stop paying, and let my account freeze.
The only regret is the people I met while gaming, there were some very special people there.

I used to play for hours and hours daily, and skip going out with friends to play some more.

I was never a senior officer, so I never felt obliged to commit time to the game, I just enjoyed. That enjoyment is gone.

To be blunt; I only log on to talk to people, I'll help my guild with a raid because I don't want to let them down, but my heart's not really in it anymore.

On my server, the leading guild were the biggest group of jerks I'd ever encounter, but they were idolised because they had the newest purple items, it's ridiculous.

Congratulations on getting your life back on track, I'm doing the same. I only hope it's not too late... I am completing a degree at the moment, and fear I may have let my grades slide a little too much.

Anonymous said...

I think the addiction metaphor for WoW is actually not very helpful. People in the game laugh and joke about how 'addictive' WoW is and in this way it almost reinforces this idea that it's hard to stop playing.

The *best* metaphor for WoW is that it's a cult, just like any crazy religion that sucks you out of the real world. Guilds, especially, are mini-cults within a cult. All constantly reinforce the need to keep playing more and more to facilitate others playing more and more.

Sometimes you have to go, "shit! I'm in a cult!" and run away while you can.

Gratz on leaving :P

Anonymous said...

I truly sympathize with the post here. I don't know why so many people seem so angry with this post, some guy realizes something isn't good for him so you blast him for it and accuse him of saying stuff that wasn't even in his post. Or else you mock him for not having the self-control to prevent it from controlling him. Geez people stop being so naive.

I've seen the effects of addiction on many loved ones ranging from alcoholism, to drug addiction, to codependency. It isn't that they didn't see what was happening to them, in fact they did but couldn't stop themselves. If you've never been addicted to something or seen what it's like first hand then you don't know what the hell you're talking about. If you can just quit something and walk away and never have second thoughts about it, I got news for you, you weren't addicted. An addiction will stay in your thoughts long after you quit.

Yeah, there are many people who play MMORPGs who will never get addicted no matter how much I play. It's the same thing with me and alcohol. I can drink all I want, which I did while in the military, and then go without it for months without missing it in the slightest. My brother on the other hand refuses to have a single drop because he knows it'll lead him back to constant binge drinking. I don't belittle him, just because I don't have that problem, that's just being an ignorant prick.

It's the same with me and MMORPGs. Last year I had to take a break for a few months, I've seen the signs that it's time for another break. If you think that makes you better then me, I don't really give a damn. And for the record yes I do have a good job making six figures. Money isn't the issue here. And to all the people here who have no problem with these games being the only thing that matters to you, good for you, but I truly hope you don't wake up one day wondering what the hell you've done with your life.

Anonymous said...

Great Post.

I can't say that I was totally sucked in to the Wow experience, but it has drawn alot of energy and caused some grief in my life. I somehow managed to get a warrior up to level 60 over the past year playing a few hours here and there.
My worst problem at the moment is that I have these two accounts for myself and my wife and kids that has been inactive for a while. My level 60 character sits there waiting to be played while I dabble in work an d other games. The sentimental value of deleting the account knowing that he will be cast off to the digital oblivion is bothering me. So I needlessly spend the cash every month to renew the subscriptoin. It sound retarded whe oyu think about it, but you get this attachment to the character you drive towards that end game experience which really isnt even there. I was so confused at what to do at 60 I just started another character and kind of mucked around trying to figure the game out. I have a family and I own a business and I can see how people want to sacrifice real life things for this goddamn carrot that Blizzard dances in front of your face. Getting plus 5 fireproc or a trinket seems so important when in reality none of the items exist. Kudos to Blizzard on making the Wow Experience so bloody addicting.

I really have to say it is all summed up to a quest you complete in Thousand Needles. The Carrot on a Stick. How ironic......

Wayne

Anonymous said...

What? You mean killing cartoon monsters for fake prizes isn't worthwhile?

Pull the other one.

Anonymous said...

Wow (no pun intended). I have many friends who are WoW addicts, but I have never really heard about how bad it is. I got into WoW for a month, realized it was taking over my life and hurting my work and school (I am a full-time student and I have a full-time job). I just wish my friends would realize as you did and get out of this game (I can hang out with them, because all they talk about is WoW).

Anonymous said...

Good read and I'm glad that you were able to get your life back together. Life is about choices, and even the smallest ones can sometimes have the largest effects.

SpeedyWild, give me a break. Just by reading your idiotic comment I can tell that you're describing yourself. You know that you live with your parents; you know that they pay for everything, and you also know that you have no life whatsoever. I would be willing to bet that you don't even have a job, so just save it. It's pretty obvious that you were the uber-nerd in high school who got picked on and couldn't get laid to save his ass, so now you try and make yourself feel better about that by ripping up some unknown person on the Internet that reminds of you of those you hated yet were to weak to stand up against. It's also obvious that you're one of those complete morons who somehow think epic gear in an MMO equates to something of value in real life. That's cool though, because it's your choice and your life. If you choose to be a worthless MMO junkie living in your parents’ basement for the rest of your life, so be it. If this blogger chooses to quit the game and do something else, more power to him. It's pretty pathetic to rip on someone for doing something that you know could never do yourself. You know you want to quit WoW, but then what would you do? Not a damn thing, thus you keep on playing. Keep you’re worthless comments in the game world where people might actually give a shit, the rest of us are talking real life. It's adult time Speedy, why don't you just cover your little eyes or better yet just go back to playing your game. Make sure to eat all your veggies and remember to be in bed by 10 because it’s a school night.

LS said...

Even though I don't know you, I can empathise.

Running a guild and maintaining your real life does cause serious implications. But you need to find that reality check. You do need to understand that what you are doing is creating a persona of yourself and that persona finishes when you cut the switch.

I'm yet to, knowing that I have not driven the same path as you have shown people. Logging on has a serious question to be asked of me every time. Why am I logging on and what is it accomplishing? on top of What else can I be doing?

Enjoy the sun on your face again mate and I am happy you have found the meaning of enlightenment.

Anonymous said...

I play WOW. It is what you make of it. I am in a great guild with people I love to hang out with. I don't feel the need to have uber leet gear, so I don't bother with it. Although there are plenty of peopel who are like yourself and the other people you described that is only about half of the WOW community. Although I appreciate your story it is only half the story.

Anonymous said...

I am a single mom of 2 kids with a full time job. You CAN learn to control if you are not so caught up in being "better" than the next person. I will be honest, during beta testing I couldnt wait for the game to come out and then when it did, i spent a couple months totally engulfed in the game. I switched servers and found myself in a great family oriented guild where our motto was "RL>WoW" and to this day it still is.
LRN2CNTROLYERSELF!

Anonymous said...

Very well written post. I think situations like these pose a very pertinent question to this generation of gamers.

Are we doing enough in our real lives to keep a very real distinction of life outside the game and life within it?

That is the aim. A good designer will always attempt to blur that line. Making the game more involving and perhaps in certain ways more attractive than real life.

WoW provides for many what would otherwise be tough to have in reality.

The ability to meet people and not be judged for the way you look / sound.

The ability to experience the exhilaration of victory.

The ability to fantasise and be bigger than life.

The ability to lead and have others follow.

The list is endless. The importance lies in realizing what WoW cannot provide.

It cannot privide the feeling of improvising blues in the 3 AM silence of a hungover Saturday morning.

It sill cannot provide the journey of finishing the "Lord of The Rings " for the nth time.

It cannot provide the feeling of a comforting hug.

It cannot provide the lazy happiness of a slightly drunk conversation in a german bar. And certainly cannot provide the very real jouney of a DnD game on a cramped, ricketty table.

I've played the game for a long time. And if I were to quit today, a few days down the line the only things I will miss are the friends I made.

Loggin on is like asking yourself a very important question. Why are you clicking on "enter world" ?

WoW can help you find yourself or lose yourself or i can be what it was meant to be. Just a game. I am glad you found yourself even if it meant quitting the game.

Andy, I will miss you in game. But I lookforward to hanging out with the Andy I havent yet gotten to see.


Cheers

Anonymous said...

"SpeedyWild, give me a break. Just by reading your idiotic comment I can tell that you're describing yourself. You know that you live with your parents; you know that they pay for everything, and you also know that you have no life whatsoever. I would be willing to bet that you don't even have a job, so just save it. It's pretty obvious that you were the uber-nerd in high school who got picked on and couldn't get laid to save his ass, so now you try and make yourself feel better about that by ripping up some unknown person on the Internet that reminds of you of those you hated yet were to weak to stand up against. It's also obvious that you're one of those complete morons who somehow think epic gear in an MMO equates to something of value in real life. That's cool though, because it's your choice and your life. If you choose to be a worthless MMO junkie living in your parents’ basement for the rest of your life, so be it. If this blogger chooses to quit the game and do something else, more power to him. It's pretty pathetic to rip on someone for doing something that you know could never do yourself. You know you want to quit WoW, but then what would you do? Not a damn thing, thus you keep on playing. Keep you’re worthless comments in the game world where people might actually give a shit, the rest of us are talking real life. It's adult time Speedy, why don't you just cover your little eyes or better yet just go back to playing your game. Make sure to eat all your veggies and remember to be in bed by 10 because it’s a school night."

//cry
OMG I got found out!

Yes, yes, you're right...it's all true!

But what you also failed to mention was that I'm also the same 45 year old fat guy living in my parents' basement that's been posing as that 13 year old boy you've been cybering with for the past two months.

Sorry for having to come out like this, I was going to chat you up later but my parents took away my Intarwebs so I can't get online anymore.

Either that or it sounds like I hit a nerve in you.

soo...
GET YOUR BITCHASS BACK IN THE KITCHEN AND MAKE MY BURGER DAMNIT!

kthx<3ubuhbye

~Speedy - Pwnfaceftw >^.^<

Anonymous said...

Great read.

Anonymous said...

Thank you so much for writing this. I have been with my boyfriend for a little over a year. for the first three months it was good and we did a lot of stuff. then, right before school started, he started playing wow. he has been playing, raiding, pvping, chatting, and farming for the last year. about two months ago i threatened to leave and he said he would change his ways. it worked for a couple weeks but it eventually went back to normal. well, he found your blog, read it, and deleted the game without a backup cd to load it back on. we'll see how long it lasts but this might be the real thing. thank you.

Anonymous said...

"I've seen it destroy more families and friendships and take a huge toll on individuals than any drug on the market today, and that means a lot coming from an ex-club DJ."


This is an obvious lie. You have clearly not seen the real-life impact that heavy drug use causes. If you had any idea of the severity of some drug use you would never have included this little piece of BS.

Drugs like Crack cocaine, crystal meth, heroin... They literally destroy your mind and your body.

When you play a video game for 2 weeks you can choose to continue playing or you could quit with the snap of a finger. Uninstall.

You can't uninstall the effects of meth, not can you reverse them.

You're pathetic and your placing blame on your pathetic life on a video game is even worse.

Anonymous said...

I don't do it to get loot or progress, I do it because it's fun. Obviously you stopped having fun so you quit. End story, it happens.

Anonymous said...

Noob... (just kidding)

Anonymous said...

"when a father/husband plays a video game all night long, seven days a week, after getting home from work, very involved instances that soak up hours and require concentration..."

Yeah, but it's awesome for the wife and the husband's best friend.

Giggity!

Anonymous said...

well, this is all i have to say about this: if you let a GAME get so deep into you and vise versa that you lose wifes, kids, husbands, GF, BF, etc. you are a very VERY weak minded person. And like a comment said "World of Warcrack is not to blame. I am" is true WOW does not MAKE you play YOU MAKE you play. So all im saying is that if you can LET this happen to YOURSELF it is your own fault not Blizzards, the truth is the are a company just like millions of others and they are out to make one goal: money, that is what there here for no matter what any of them or anyone says. And as for saying this is a place that people come to geta way from things, let it be so, if thats what they want to do to get away, let them. It's there choice, not yours.

P.S. I do play this game and i can keep it under control. (if you want to argue about it im on Greymane anem is thoraxetwo, or demonpriest)

Anonymous said...

WoW helped me drink less. I used to go out most nights drinking until early in the morning. Now I play Warcraft and spend $400 less a month!

Thanks Blizzard! :>

Anonymous said...

Same happened to me. Played a year WOW. When there were troubles in the guild I ended my subscription. 2.5 months left to go. I did not amuse myself anymore. I forced myself to love the game again. In the 2 months I found a new guild and accomplished more than in the year I played. I did some instances for the first time, got some epics... It was a great guild. I almost subscribed again, but then a week before my credit ended, the guild stopped. Guildleader quited, others found that the guild had not a good name on the server and stopped the guild. "Darkness of sins on Defias EU"

I came to a conclusion what am I doing with myself. What is the point of the neverending grinding, honor farming for that better gear, level of honor. And when you look at the game with a bit of scepticism you conclude it is everyday always the same.

I made clear I ended some quests. Then gave some items to guildmates, and never played again. Thought I would start again with the expansion. But when I read forums, I see all is still the same. So I won't start again.

A few years ago I also played UO for 6 months. I've always found the concept of UO way better. No quests. No real killer items. Just do what you like. Not so addictive. To sad the graphics are now totally outdated. Else I would start right away with that.

Anonymous said...

I really don't think its fair the way you describe the game. Honestly it's your problem, it's great that you left... congrats. I have a job work 10 hrs a day and then come home to relax play some WoW and thats it and I can still get to work in the morning. It;s all about will power, obviously you had none and yes I am in a raiding guild so I do know how it feels. But damn dude most guilds quit after 11 and it usually takes 3 hrs. God fucking damn, keep on complaining guys thats what bloggers do anyways.

You all should really stop reading this shit and maybe pick up a book.

Anonymous said...

Good post

I’ve never played WoW, but I have played everquest which I am told is a lot more time consuming than WoW.

The problem I found with everquest and MMOS in general I think is that you don`t realize your becoming addicted until its to late. When you really are addicted to an MMO it takes a huge amount of will power to tear yourself away, basically because your whole life revolves round the game.

Its good people are now starting to become aware of the addictive properties of these types of games.

Anonymous said...

This is such a silly argument.

If someone put this much time into their church you'd call them a religious person.

If someone worked two jobs to provide for their family you'd laud them.

But someoen putting a type a personality towards a video game is an addict and "wasting" their life.

That's LIFE. if you don't like it don't do it, but being all self rightous and saying that it's not right for anyone because it's not your thing is just a load.

Personally, wether or NOT I'm playing WoW if I had the kind of social obligations you mention ("going out everynight and having something to do") I'd go insane. That's just NOT my idea of a good time.

Anonymous said...

WOW is mos t of what i have to say.

what you say is the exact truth, i belong to a hard core raiding guild and only put 7 hours a week into it so far. but your absolutely right. im failing school and gaining weight when i used tyo be the buffest 16 yearold in school.'

i see the monster i am through this article and want to stop. but i cant stop the monster. hbave you anyideas?

Anonymous said...

Hi there! 57 year old grandmother here - been playing WoW for 2 years and have reached level 58 pretty much on my own, on my own time. I've been in many guilds, was an officer in one, but that's not my thing. My family always came first and I never let the game "seduce" me. It's a wonderful escape and I play on-line with my son and a couple of my grandkids (who do extremely well in school). Love the game....signed "Tattoo".

Anonymous said...

Stopping WOW? Easy.. give away all your gear/loot..delete your characters... close your account, uninstall the software, delete all bookmarks in your browser to WOW links, .... break the disks and throw them alway along with all the materials that came with them.

And step out the front door.

I'm a WOW player who suffers from many of the addictive properties of the game as described by the OP. But I like it.

I've always had a full time job and family to keep me from being too obsessive and I enjoy my time gaming. Before WOW it was single player games going back over 20 years now...before that..board games...

Good article..but I don't blame WOW for my own weaknesses, those lie solely with me.

Anonymous said...

There is a lot of good insight in this post. I've been an officer in a very large social guild for a little over a year, and just recently decided to stop raiding more or less completely.

My trigger was watching the people whose company I once enjoyed gain a distorted sense of self-importance the more progress was made in end-game. The attitudes became very distasteful to me, and I simplified my goal in-game to one thing; having fun.

Becoming a casual player in some ways immediately relegates you to "nobody" status, even as a leader.

For a couple weeks now I've been treating WoW as a game and it feels fantastic to be free of some ridiculous self-enforced obligation to a video game. Better than that Tier 2 drop ever did.

Anonymous said...

I have played WoW for about a year now, and I can't say that I have run into the same problems as you or your friends. I think that people should/can exhibit a little self-control. I have a full time job and have never taken the day off just to play. I still go to bed at a reasonable time, and I still hang out with my friends. Yes, I do play for hours many weekends, but when I am not playing I don't experience "withdrawal." It's just one thing that occupies my time in a life full of many other things. Self control and a balanced life, people.

Anonymous said...

I live in buffalo... if you follow the news.... you know we've had no power for a week now.

I'm also a hardcore WoW addict.... Guild Raid Leader, Main Tank..... 102 days played on the main, with two alts bother over 30 days played.

I've got the AQ Sceptre Bug Mount.... I've got a Thunderfury.... and I've spent the last week tearing my hair out with no ability to play, and watching my guild try to stumble along without me.

What's my point..... My coworker..... the one with 5 60's on 3 different servers, sent me this article because he's worried about me.......

Anyways.... ramble ramble ramble.

I'm a professional adult..... I do my job, and I do it well.

I can also multi-task like no-ones business, and I work from home.... so I can do my farming while running conference calls.... or recently I've been grinding AV rep because I want a Don Julio's for the expansion.

I also live an oncall life as part of my job. 1 week in 3, I'm trapped in my house, waiting for the eventuality that pager is going to go off and I'm going to need to be on the phone solving some major issue for the next 12 hours.

But I've also learned to cut back.

I was in a guild raiding 6 nights a week, we raced from MC to being on the Emps in the span of about 4 months.... and then it all fell apart.

Along the way, we lost alot of people who got burned out and couldn't keep up the pace. It was too much to ask of anyone. Not and maintain a real life.

I went with them, to a new server, and formed a new guild, and we keep it casual. We don't flask, we don't take mongoose pots, we pretty much just don't use consumables. We raid 3-4 hours a night, for 4 nights a week, and we're back on Huhuran, starting with 2/3 of our raiding force in full blues.

It's not about the farming.... it's not about spending your life in front of the keyboard.... it's become about the fun again.

I had full tier 2 coming into this guild.... I've looted a total of 2 items in 3 months... but I still come back... because I enjoy playing with these people.... we get things done, but we don't do the crazy, obsessive, 6 hours a day, 6 days a week, and find time to farm in between any more.

I've found my balance with WoW..... I enjoy it again....

I'm not going through withdrawal over the pixel's I'm missing out on..... I'm going through withdrawal of talking to friends on Vent, and the accomplisment we feel when we catch up to these hardcore guilds who spend twice the 10-12 hours a week our most dedicated are required to spend to reach the same destination.

Having no power for a week has forced me to re-evaluate the game...... but it's forced me to re-evaluate it positively.

And I do have an addictive personality, but unlike many addictions in my life, I haven't had to quit this one cold turkey, I've finally been able find a happy medium.

Anonymous said...

I used to be a casual wow gamer. I played about 15 hours a week and found it very fun.

I believe I had a positive experiance however because I was playing the game simply to experiance more of the warcraft story line that I have been a fan of for many years.

I had no interest in proving I was stronger then anyone else- I just wanted to find out what happened to arthas!!(and various other things)

Most people I had talked with in the game had never played any of the original strat games. I feel that those people are the ones for the most part who are seeking a "high" from the game instead of just a fantasy experiance.

thats my 2 cents

Anonymous said...

Quit being so emo. Go pwn some noobs, down some bosses and stop cutting yourself. Learn to draw a line with playing World of Warcraft. I find it pretty easy to be a hardcore raider (Naxx, BWL on farm status, etc.), farm potions, be Pally class leader - which means that I'm in charge of recruitment, PvP on the side; while retaining a social life, be Captain of my Swim Team and being a full-time college student at a Division 1-A school. Stop thinking that World of Warcraft gives you excuse to crawl into a hole and not come out for months at a time.

Anonymous said...

It is clear that you lack self discipline and have obsesive/compulsive behavior.

It has nothing to do with WoW, you simply lack the mental discipline to /logout or /exit and smell the roses every now and then.

To place the blame on WoW and gaming is eroneous. The blame lies right in the mirror.

It's sad that you refuse to acknowledge that and instead choose to deflect blame that lies squarely on your own shoulders.

That's the pathetic part of your story.

Anonymous said...

While I can understand and feel your pain in an addiction to online gaming, WoW is not to blame in this. It would be the same as blaming a gun for killing someone and not the person behind it.

Should MMO's be less adicting?

Sure, but all games should be less addicting, but thats the draw isn't it? If a game isn't addictive enough to keep you comming back, then it doesn't sell well, no one will buy the expansion or re-play the game, addiction equals value.

I have had times in my life where WoW went from just something to enjoy to something that was an addiction, and times where I log in 1-2 days a week. It depended on what was happening in my life, but I am that way with gaming in general. But the thing to understand here, as stated above, it's not the game, but the player.

Now, as a little background, I have worked in the gaming industry for about 10 years now, mainly as a tester. I have helped to design MMO's and games as well. At my worst I would work 8-10 hours a day on a game, then play that same game another 6-8 hours after I got off. But that was Asheron's Call and didn;t have the same issues that others had like UO and EQ, both of which I tested. I even played the first true MMO, Meridian 59 as a tester.

The point is being able to find your balance between life and gaming. If WoW does not allow you to find that balance, then either make it fit into that balance or quit. I have raided everything to BWL more times than I would want to, well BWL only a few times and nothing higher, but honestly I don't care if I get teir 2 vs teir 1 or be the best PvPer of the week. I enjoy the game for a game, my friends for wanting to get together, and raiding for the challenge of working together for a common goal.

But then I also have 3 level 60's and a 4th on the way so I can provide my guild what it needs on a raid night. I also only raid 3 days out of 7 and cancel my raids if my daughter needs me or I need to go out with friends. It's all about balance.

Good luck,

Shantak

Anonymous said...

I've been playing WoW for over a year and a half now, and i have to say i'm quite addicted in all honesty, 10 hours is an understatement. I'll wake up at around 11am and play until about 3-4am if i don't have school or work in the morning, and even at that-- i'll often call in sick or skip it, and catch up. Even today i called in sick with the excuse that my doctor needed to review my X-Rays with me, i'm regretting it as my last day at my job is this sunday, i don't know how long it'll take me to find another one with my bad habbits.

Anonymous said...

We know how you feel - GWB, Willy, Ronnie and Bonzo, JC nutmaster, LBJ, Jack and Bobby,Ike,TruMan,FDR,etc

Anonymous said...

“There are three problems that arise from WoW: the time it requires to do anything "important" is astounding, it gives people a false sense of accomplishment, and when you're a leader, and get wrapped up in it, no matter how much you care or want people to care, you're doing the wrong thing.”

You think WoW is bad try our gig - thre Prez club - GWB, Willy, Ronnie and Bonzo, JC nutmaster, LBJ, Jack and Bobby,Ike,TruMan,FDR,etc

Anonymous said...

I can't beleive all the negative feedback most of you guys are leaving. I got sucked into DDO (Dungeons and DRagons online) I was offered a free WOW account but I knew better. I did the GM thing the RAID twice a week thing. The guild webpage, promoting officers and all that crap. I loved it. It was my first MMORPG and I got hooked.

After taking a step back I can see how I let myself get a little out of control. I applaud the original posters.

Two the 40% of you who flame this guy maybe you should look in the mirror? If you actually take offense to something he says, why is that? I didn't hear him blame the game. I didn't read that everyone who plays MMO's are social derelicts and losers. I read that a guy got sucked in, had the strength to climb out and shared his experience with him.

I applaud you brotha.

Anonymous said...

I never played WoW, Never thought it was worth it to pay monthly for a
game. But about 4 or so years ago I got an Xbox for Christmas, and roughly 1 to 2 months later I got Xbox Live. I was estatic. I played MechAssault for hours, Then at a friends house I was introduced to Rainbow Six 3, I was hooked.

I went out and bought it and popped it in the disk tray. I already had some people to play with that I knew from a MechAssault board so I joined their server. The atmosphere was awesome, There were people from the States, England and Ireland. (Mostly England).

I was horrible, But seeing how the others played only made me want to get that good. 4 months later and spending around 10 - 12 hours a day of playing and I was able to join one of the best clans for Rainbow Six 3 on Xbox Live, Which led to another $50 so I could get another account and clan tag.

At the time the clan I was in was registered with Team Compete which is a tournament site and they wanted to win. After about a week I was in clan matches in which we had at least 2 a day but it was normally 4.(The more clans we faced and beat the higher we got in the ladder). We got to the Team Compete championships, Even had top clans refuse to go against us. I was loving it, By now I had become part of the main line up and soon would be one of the leaders of the clans Rainbow Division.

What I haven't mentioned yet is that I was still in High School, Just switched to computer schooling actually after 9 years of being in the public school system. I suppose Rainbow Six was my way of interacting with people again. By the time we reached the championship I had been behind in school big time, and I'm still trying to catch up. While I don't think video games make people violent, I do think people use them to escape reality. I know I did. I didn't think of it as that at the time, At the time I was just having fun. Now that I look at how I was, It was a type of power trip. I was good to be modest about it, To be honest I was one of the best. Not the best of course, But I could wipe out a team of 5 expirianced players by myself. A friend of mine, Also a clan member were so cocky we would go against 8 people, If someone joined the server we would tell them to go to the other team, kill them all and then laugh when they got pissed and left. It wasn't just a game, At the time it was a way of life.

I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who had a problem with a video game. It's now been 2 years since I've spent more than 4 hours playing a game. I'm catching up in school, I spend my time outside hanging out with friends or playing my guitar and bass. and while I miss the feeling I got when I played the feeling of power knowing I was better than pretty much everyone I played, What I don't miss though is spending my life on a video game. It's something I never want to do again.

Anonymous said...

Very well said. I myself had 2 Alliance 60's until almost 2 months ago when I uninstalled and sold my account. As others have already self control is a very big part of it, but it's hard to understand the draw of it unless you're wrapped up in it like I was (about to head into Naxx), and it's also very easy to justify it.

Anonymous said...

Damn, this blog is completely true. What you made me realize was there is no "winning" World of Warcraft... You just strive to get better and better. I keep running instances and raids just to get my 60 Rogue better, but in a few months/years (Hopefully not years) when I retire my accont, I know I'll regret it.

Good man.

Anonymous said...

A great post, but I have to observe that the lion's share of the guest poster's complaint about life "inside" WoW could honestly be referred to as, "The Middle Manager's Lament."

150 people who want 150 different things from you, and then forget you were there just days after you're gone? If that pains you so much, then trust me in the fact that you never, ever want to be in corporate management, because that's the life, right there. Those who do thrive in those environments are either petty myopic self-aggrandizing pointy headed boss types that thrill in whatever power they hold over other people (the majority) or talented organizers that take pleasure in successfully executed duties, no matter how transient they are (the minority). For most of us, and the poster as well, neither of these descriptions fit.

In a way, Blizzard should be admired, in a sociological way, for developing a system that brings a visceral kind of human relationship into a virtual world. And having lived through the go-go Internet boom and crash myself, can we honestly say that questing for epic loot is really any more ridiculous than questing for venture capital or the holy killer IPO? Personally, I don't think WoW will ever be able to inflict as much damage on humanity as say, Enron did.

Anonymous said...

Very well said? Ya'll are just a bunch of whiney bastards ecexpt grandma over there. All you guys say omg i had no self control, bla bla bla. Self control is easy, you just need to have goals in life and be tougher. Of course alot of you lead shealtered lives, but thats no excuse not getting out there and getting laid FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!! Just because your not 21 and cant drink yet doesn't mean you technically can't and never-the-less there is so much to do in life, how big of a loser you must be to get caught up in a bunch of pixels regardless of whos behind the character cause you can't screw em.

Anonymous said...

Feedback is silly.

Farming is for farmers I always say.

Anonymous said...

While appreciate the fact they you found a problem in your life and sought to correct it, that's good for you.

But you are to blame. Not the game. Take resposibility for your own actions. That is one of the reasons why the US has become the most letigious society in the world .. because people seek to blame others and not themselves for their own actions.

Anonymous said...

I appreciate your honest and candor, and let's agree that your story happens in many other settings besides gaming. Think about the people you know who are addicted to business, making money, controll, sex, etc. When the addiction controls you then you have to take a step back, no matter what it is.

What's my point? We are addictive people. I am addictive and I have to constantly monitor what I am obsessing over. Good, real relationships should always take precedence over my short term "fixes" because the fixes never satisfy in the end. Relationships do.

If you can use WOW for relationship building and ligitimately limit your time on it then awesome. If not - summon your mount and ride the hell away.

-Mark Merrick

Anonymous said...

i am amzed at how many ppl have fallen for this game.i have never really gotten into WoW,however i had some probs with other games.it nice to know im not the only on out there who has a bit of a prob holding back.i notice that a lot of posts seem to be comming from a muture crowd,i find that intresting.and i think that most of the ppl that get hooked on RPGs are guys,i think its prolly cuz guys have a inborn need to lead and have a reson to live.and sadly, ther is a lot of ppl out there who dont seem to much reson to just live.and for all the loud mouths out there,why dont u just lay off? lol i know this is rambling:P

Anonymous said...

I too am a victim. Well saying "victim" is feeling sorry for yourself. Anyway, I played another MMORPG, Final Fantasy XI, for around three years. My actual playtime was like 260ish days.I'm not joking or lying. Many of my buddies had even more than that. I met someone with over two years of actual playtime. I didn't have a sudden revalation, either. I wish I could say I did, but I didn't. I was forced from it, being caught as a botter. Final Fantasy XI is alot like WoW, but from what I've seen, even more addictive. Even so, I never really went through any withdrawal simptoms or anything like that. It was like one day I was there the next day I was gone. I wont say I didn't care, but it didn't hit me very hard. In fact that was my whole attitude when I started botting and hacking. If I get caught doing it, then they will ban me and my addiction is broken. The main point I want to make here (kind of unrelated to my story) is that these MMORPGs only interfere with your life when you have an obligation to other people. The main thing being raids. You have a duty to your guild to be present. And you can never schedual these raids so that it suits everyone's schedual. So naturally, someone has to leave their reality to be with the rest. Honestly, I think thats the main thing. If I was just grinding (leveling up) by myself and some buddies called me up to hang out, I'd easily log off and go. Its when I'm in the middle of something that I can't leave because of the others thats what gets me. And everyone else. Thats my two cents. Thanks yall :)

Anonymous said...

Your article gave me the courage and motivation to stop. You know you have a problem with something when you see your resistence to quit. I was in tears as I disenchanted my items, I had a problem.

Thank you for writing this.

Anonymous said...

So omg -.- is it really that hard to keep controle on your own life? Even let a game do this to u? What does the game do? nothing it is u who interact's with the game.

It's no addiction at all it's all in your mind. U play the game cause u find it a nice game but it is you who choose to spend hours and hours in front of the computer -.- so basicly none can blame blizzard for making an addictive game. Cause it isn't. Only you can choose to stop and not some 1 else. If u think otherwise u serious need some mental help.

This all proves the lack of discipline to know what comes on first place, as far as I can say that is not a computergame.

I don't denie the fact that this game can give u your "sexual pleasures" (in rude word said joy).
So the qeustion to that is do u enjoy the game? Yes else u wont play it. But then think about what come sout from it. So omg I improved my character. No ment real live. Uhhhh..... I am happy! So omg u are happy gratz!. And so what now is this your satisfaction? No I WANT MORE MORE. So begins the horney journey to even go further beyond in WOW and get more joy more joy!. Doesn't real live give u more joy. If yes and being honest in it then cheers then there is not really anything wrong if u yust can controle yourself. If no Seek aid from higher up and that doesn't mean contacting ingame a GM -.- no call the mental house for advise they can help u anytime

cheers.

Anonymous said...

I wish to thank all the guys who blame there self playing World of Warcraft it takes much courage to do so.

And also want to add that this post made me again realise how many dumb people on the planet excists this is yust entertainment u cannot pay for.

O noes my live depends on World of Warcraft yaddie yaddie yust beautifull how deep people can sink.

But yeah it take much courage to blame yourself having an addictive illusion.

If people start like this about a game pls go seek out medical aid. Or go and begin a law proces against yourself for being a complete retard and ask for being place for as long as u live in a jail cause u are dangerous for yourself and people around u.

But ye yust love pure comedy

Anonymous said...

wow.. this post really made me think and priorise things. I myself have a 1 year old kid and i now realize that i play WoW way too much and give less attention to my wife and kid. I feel devastated now, thinking of all the lost time with my kid and wife; i.e. what all wonderful things i could have made with all that time wasted in WoW, my kid is growing every day and i wont get that one year back, while ignoring his presence partially. Now its time to cure, time to flee from WoW. This is my end, this is me new born! THANKS!!

Anonymous said...

Good god you are such a noob.

Ive been playing since fucking beta, and what the fuck man what the fuck!
Ive got good 3 60 chars, Ive had one serious relationship, now in another.
Ive got a fucking job which I do with great effort, never late etc!
Im in the fucking same shape I was 2 years ago. maybe even better.

But here you come, omfg im such an addict.
geez you just got to be ugly or something.

Anonymous said...

Jeezus. Just because you fuck your life up and have no self control at all, dont go blame Wow. And secondly, to compare it to drugs is just an insult to anywho who ever had a drug problem. It's nothing in comparsion.

Anonymous said...

I cant believe i just scrolled to the bottom of the page and saw 2 people disagreing.

Anonymous said...

cheers man, its good to see people who have control over themselves, unlike me:P but thankfully that what my parents are here for.2hrs a day is good enough for me, after im done all my work. it truly is worse than any drug, even though i cant bring my self to hate the game,it can ruin someones life. and to all you haters out there this guy has got it right and i say good for him.

Anonymous said...

Honestly, WTF are the rest of you doing with your lives that is so great? Anyone here finding the cure for cancer in their spare time? Then STFU.

Anonymous said...

I wrote something entirely longer, but I'll just paraphrase: I applaud you for kicking something that was ruining your life. On the other hand, I am whole-heartedly amazed that there are people who take WoW THAT seriously. I tend to think that you shouldn't have to quit the game to stop. You can play the game 20 hours a week and still have fun. If the guild was giving you so much stress, leave and try something else.

In the end, it is just a game and MMOs have been like this since Ultima Online and Everquest. They are open ended games by nature. That is simply just what an MMO is. Every person has the ability to stop or curb their play time. Any social obligations created through the game are fabricated by the player. You don't HAVE to get the best EQ and you don't HAVE to be "better" than people.

Enjoy the game at your own pace. If you no longer enjoy the game, then stop. That is obviously what you did here and I hope that things work out for you man.

Anonymous said...

"You can play the game 20 hours a week and still have fun."

IMO, playing even 20 hours a week shows that you have a problem. 30+ hours a week? Seek help.

There is nothing inherently wrong with playing computer games. They are just another form of entertainment. Like any other activity, when they are taken to an extreme is when you run into problems. "All things in moderation" is a wise credo.

Anonymous said...

I play in one of these "hardcore" guilds and I have to agree on everything you write. PPl not up for comparing this with a drug. Either you never have had any RL to compare with or you just havet come to the point of aproval. I have played since beta and just reached the spot when ALL these things you write stating to catch up on me. Great post, just great

Anonymous said...

Interesting story.
I got hooked into Diablo 2 while i was in college. Another Blizzard game and i imagine alot of what WoW is based on. I played the game near constantly and I believe my grades suffered for it. I don't blame the game because it was my choice, but the addiction is there. Like anything else that gives pleasure games are addicting. Thankfully i never got into WoW or any of the others. I can only imagine what turns my life would have made.

Anonymous said...

I was the goody mom, 3 wonderful kids and never had an addiction in my life. Started playing with addicted hubby to see what the fuss was about. A year has passed and I can’t recall much of it other than how many fabled items I have!! I rock!! But I’ve sucked as a mom. I agree it’s my fault. I let the addiction happen. I chose to play and continued to play even though I knew better. The mmporgs are purposely developed with all the aspects needed to create addiction, addiction=more money, pretty simple to figure out and smart if you think about it. For those of you who avoid the addiction, “play responsibly” and don’t let the game affect your life, gratz to you. You are better than I, but quit the nasty posts, it’s called DENIAL.

Anonymous said...

Probably no one will read this comment. But there is so much truth in what you said. I played WoW since it came out and Quit the game myself back in May. I was at one point the leader of the guild Shadows of Divinity. It was not a very big guild, at most we had about 75 members, but we had a very close knit community of people and I have seen what these games do. I agree with you 100 percent...especially on the point about the leader always being wrong. I know how that feels and at one point I got so fed up with it I disbanded that whole thing and quit, but I had nothing to fill the void in my time left by getting rid of everything else I had been doing before I started playing. It turned into me merely sitting on the game talking to my guildmates as they ran around, trying to keep the peace and solve everyones problems. It all snowballed and I had a few bad experiences and falling outs. Some good things can come out of it though, the guild was reformed by someone else when I left, and I returned to the game for a time on the condition that I would never run the guild. It was better to be a peon. Now we have both quit for good, me and the person who was my friend before and reformed the guild when I left. She's the love of my life and we live together now. I met her in the game and she moved across the country to be with me. Strange, I know but like you put it she is better than any woman ive met doing anything else. But I am so relieved to have quit that timesink and gotten back on track, and as my girlfriend puts it "Hey, the game sucks, but it served its purpose." Shes right in more ways than one...I appreciate my time so much more now. It feels good to have my life back. Kudos to you, on that.

Anonymous said...

A lot of the people Im noticing that disagree with this article have one same comment: "it's your fault you've ruined your life, don't blame wow". I'm answering, youre missing the point: he's already admitting it IS HIS fault. He's just stating that he got addicted to wow, just like a drug addict accepts he's addicted to marijuana or crack. It still doesn't belittles the fact that this guy has seen the root of his problem, and is now moving forward, and he wants to share his experience with the rest of us. Great post man, I myself can relate to a lot of what you're saying, luckily(in the game I'd say its unlucky) I never made it into any of the good guilds with my char, but at one time I did wish to be able to play those big instances and have epics like the rest of the tough bad asses in AB and AV. Still, you're right, nothing beats living you're life to the fullest, no game, no instances, and definitively no epics:p
Good luck from now on.

Anonymous said...

Good write up. I have a teenage daughter who was hooked. She always has a lot of homework, and she would try to do it as fast as she could to get some time on the game if possible. On the weekends, she'd be up all night, sleep all day and forget about her homework. Since she was failing math, we closed her account so she can't play anymore. Might have to wait until the end of the school year. But I think this might be good for her. Maybe now she'll have time to think about college and talk to some real friends.

Anonymous said...

You nailed it. I am glad you have reclaimed your life. I could relate to so much of what you wrote... Thanks for sharing this!

Anonymous said...

Eh, seems as most here are missing the real point (including the original poster), and that is that games like WoW shouldn't be played with the 'achiever' mentality.

There is no end game, there is no 'game' at all, to be honest, its a set of tools for casual roleplaying. If all you retards who have to raid and the best of everything would just relax, roleplay for a couple of hours every week, and then go about your life and other hobbies, then you wouldn't burn out.

Leading a guild with 100 people is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard: You can't even know 100 people, not well, so why would you waste your time trying to provide for them?

If you're a gamer, chances are you have some real life friends who are also gamers; get a couple of them together a couple nights a week, play an mmo for a couple of hours, and then go about your business.

Its really not that difficult.

Anonymous said...

So says the wise man who doesn't have a clue. Not that difficult? That is almost humerous. Kudos for your uber self-control.

Anonymous said...

It's too bad WoW isn't a game to be played in moderation. An FPS you can log in and play an hour and log out, when you come back later that week things are still the same and you are able to play with the same people. A game like Eve-online is even better although a time sink itself, it allows your character to get "better" with skills that train in real time, whether you are logged in or not, the only commitment is to log in and change skills when the skill is trained. The only other reason to play is just for that, to play and make money, so in the sense you need money it takes time , but you can stop playing for a week or 2 come back and still be advancing as fast character-wise as the guys that play 10/7. Good luck wiht your real life...

Anonymous said...

WoW plays on one of the deepest human emotions, pride. The player is trying to be a top raider, in the top guild, with the best epic items. He is trying to be better than than others in the honor ranking system or in pvp.

Now the players that are playing just for the enjoyment of the game in itself. That is great. But when your goal is to be better than the other players or "uber" then game sucks you in and you will see the time sucked away from your real life.

Anonymous said...

I started playing WoW a week after it came out.I haven't even gotten to level 60 yet - I'll probably get to level 59 tonight. I still enjoy the game and I'm glad it's around. I'm hoping to get Level 60 before the expansion. (yes, I've forked over $336 to Blizzard and only gotten to Level 60 - I've also spent more than that on an analog phone line I NEVER use but have to have so I really see it as a bargain)

It's not just Blizzard. This is about the Internet in general - enabling copious amounts of people to do wtf they want when they want with little or no cost.

When it comes down to it, do you want to do something for others or do something for yourself? Do you have fun with yourself or fun with others?

I switch back and forth. Sometimes I'll spend a lot of time on myself. Sometimes I'll spend it all on others. It's all about discipline, balance, and fun. Gotta have fun.

Anonymous said...

Whatever, it sounds like this guy wasn't ready for the real world anyway and that isn't an uncommon problem for people who recently graduated college. You spend your whole life in school, climbing some ladder with invisible rewards that don't actually translate into the "real world" (sorry people, your grades don't actually matter in the log run, neither does the college you go to, etc.,) and all of a sudden, when you are "done" you find yourself in a whole different rat race where there is no one to pat you on the head and give you a gold star of an "a" or induct you into NHS. People finish undergrad, get alienated and lost, and most of them end up getting their crap together.

So this guy pissed too much of his emotion into WoW and learned about a weakness. He's all the better for it. SOunds to me like WoW was the best way to learn about that weakness, better than booze or drugs, or whatever.

Furthermore, lol for those of you who think his time could be better spent saving the world or getting buff. Look around you at the fat, useless people who spend all their time watching 'dancing with the stars' or 'flava of love'. People sink all sorts of stupid time into doing crap a lot more empty than WoW.

I'm saying this as someone who plays pretty casually and has done so for 2 years. I play with my RL friends, family, and significant other. We go out on Friday nights to watch movies or go to the symphony, we spend Saturdays in a museum, and Saturday night playing WoW. No biggie. We have 60s, we raid, we have a good guild that respects RL commitments. We work out regularly. I have a great job, I do well in it, and I love being able to keep in touch with my friends across the country via WoW. When the winters get cold and blah I can run around the deserts of Azeroth.

I can do all of that because I have my Sh%t together. THis guy, and those of you who can't control it, don't have your sh%t together.

And please don't compare this to a chemical dependance. Its not the same. Chemical dependance is a real, physiological problem. THese people have their priorities out of wack. If it wasn't wow, it would be porn, or fantasy football or crap on E!

...maybe its good that he had a high profile problem that made him realize he needed to work on his priorities.

Anonymous said...

I am also a WoW player. I've played for 1.5 years, and watched how even my language has changed to include words used in WoW.

I love the game, I have several toons (see there is one), and will likely play tonight. But, I've understood lately that this is not a game that you shut off and it does not continue.

Peeps (another one) continue playing if you are there or not. They have their own goals, and you are just a cartoon character. Yes, there are some that become real friends, but definately not most.

Guilds are a community and they go on if one member comes or goes.

Am I looking foward to the expansion, you bet. Will I play it, of course. However, I'm beginning to understand that I need to stand down and utilize moderation.

Being a guild officer, inspired me to spend more time immersed in game. I'm not sure I like how that time is being spent. As a Manager in RL (hey, another) I enjoy being an important part of that cog in the system, so being an officer is just natural...however, what is the result? Increased time spent in an immaginary world? Is that really what we should be doing?

Anonymous said...

WOW is appears to be as addicting as some hard drugs. The chemical release in a persons brain when one is playing a game such as WOW, is similarly addicting to a person with an introduced chemical or drug that triggers the release of excess endorphin.

I say this with a MENSA IQ and medical degree.

There should soon be self-help groups for addicted gamers. Such a thing could already exist for all i know.

Excellent story, thank you for sharing it with us.

Anonymous said...

I read this and many of the posts (Obviously a very hot topic for alot of people)and sat back a moment in my chair...

Got up, went outside at 2am, (Not long finished raiding BWL)had a cig and just thought about what this game has done for me...

I do have a tendancy towards addiction, i used to be addicted to gambling, fruit machines, cards, slots, anything with a chance, i managed to get out of this through help from my now Ex, when we split up a friend told me about WoW and as i was already an avid RPG fan it just seemed like a good idea,

So i just tred to think what it has helped me with, and, well, nothing... Instead of meeting with my friends when i split with my ex and drinking my sorrow away, but being out meeting new people, i sat down, and looked at a screen with lots of pretty colours and just Quested/Grinded away, i started WoW a year ago. I have no accomplishments since i started, i have lost friends, not through Malice, but simply because i have placed all my effort into pixels and not RL friendships.

I Quit my job last week, and instead of Looking for a new one, i have played WoW,

Yeager, i applaud you, you have been honest about what a sink hole this "GAME" can be, and the effects it has on your life.

The Game is never to blame, it is the addictive tendancies, they are hard for people to notice, and for many people to let go.

I have OnLine friends who have told me many stories of their families, jobs, relationships splitting or suffering problems because of there addiction, and yet they are telling me on the Game,

I have just snapped my WoW disc, and Removed the program from my PC.

I am an Addict, but your words are clear and make me realise just how much of an addict i am.

Thank you.

Anonymous said...

Much like the OP I was an officer in a top DAOC RVR focussed guild that dominated the Merlin server (one of the most populated on DAOC at the time) and followed the guild to the PVP server where we again dominated.

I've played MMORPG's since 1999 (Asherons Call) where a friend introduced me to the world of online games. I was hooked immediately playing an unimaginable (at the time) 6 hours the first night.

Calling in sick to work, failing to meet friends on the weekend became routine. Lucky enough for me I always managed to keep work a slightly higher priority and never had any money related issues.

After 7 years of MMORPG's - ending with a 6 month WoW stint I felt it happening again. Luckily WoW didn't have as an exciting endgame for me as DAOC did.

Since last summer I immersed myself in my work (sometimes 70 hours a week) and can gladly say at this point I have no desire to play an MMORPG as I have done in the past.

Unfortunately when I check the forums of my old WoW guild many of them have degenerated to professional players. I can tell by the long winded posts where they fight/bicker over raid gear and who showed up to what raid etc etc.

The whole purpose of MMORPG's are lost in a game like WoW that is so completely time-sink and item driven ; really sad.

Anyways not many people are as lucky as me. MMORPG's can become a vortex and depending on what you are going through in RL they can be absolutely devastating.

My advice to anyone that finds themselves playing more than 20 hours a week ... especially skipping work-days, missing get-togethers with RL people to STOP playing the game.

MMORPG's truly can become an out of control addiction.

Anonymous said...

An Addiction? Give me a break. The douchebag who typed that sub-moronic drivel needs to stop blaming a game for being a game and blame himself for being an idiot.

Anonymous said...

learn too controll your own life.. Cant say more..

Im a "hardcore" gamer..
I am in school, got social life..
So l2p and get real.. If you feeled to addicted, YOU should say NO if not your a weak weak pussy.

You take the steps on your own.

Anonymous said...

I'm a girlfriend of a wow-addict. I know what an effect wow has on social life. But indeed: it's not only the game, it's all about the gamer. If the gamer doesn't have self-control, he will get kicks on playing the leader in a game, while he's in real life a yes-nodder.
I'm trying my best to accept wow in my life, but having a hard time seeing time passing by while he is on his computer, and I'm right next to him.
I'm really really looking forward to the day he actually realises what he's missing out of. I've been trying 4 years to talk it out of his head, so far, no result. If I dare mentioning 'Wow is bad, you are an addict'. I have to suffer 2 days of silence, and instead of reaching out for me, he tries to find confort with his guildies...
It's a sad sad game, too bad so many people fall for it.
Don't know how I can make him realise, because a blog like yours, he will not read.
Another argument: 'I only have wow, what else am I going to do with all that free time?'

Anonymous said...

Having over 100 days played in everquest the first year it was out,and a level 60 in wow in the first two months that wow was out I will say this: Anyone who finds raiding 12 hours a day 7 days a week doesn't exist. You CANNOT call waiting 30 minutes for a raid to get started as being fun. You cannot call waiting 2 minutes between pulls as fun. You can't call being a faceless DPS in the crowd as "thrilling". Raiding which probably composes about 80% of someone's playtime who has played over 50 days, is really not that action packed or satisfying. Games are about having fun, raiding is pretty much f'ing retarded.

Anonymous said...

Ok just to let people know, i just recently quit playing WoW... /played over 100 days over 2 years... I noticed that some people said that its not an addiction because its in your head... I laugh at you. There are two types of addictions physical addictions and MENTAL addictions. It's very easy to get addcited to someone you do everyday all day... take a smoker for example: yes nicotine makes you have a physical addiction but most people chew gum or use some type of other material to replace the cig... that would be the mental part of it. You "need" something there so it is replaced... just a thought though...

Anonymous said...

An eye-opener... thank you for that.

At first, i refused to buy a pay to play game. Spending 120 euro's a year on a game compared to 40 euro's for any other game seemed rediculous to me. I was, and still am, a member of a gaming community who play all kinds of PC-games on the internet. Eventually i was persuaded to buy the game, and off i went...

I joined the guild which was founded by this so-called "Clan" and i slowly started my career in the guild. In the beginning the game was quite fun. Doing all kinds of quests with friends i played other games with - eventhough i never had seen their real-life faces - and i would play the game when i had a little spare time left between my rich social contacts.

I became the co-GM in the guild and classleader. We selected our members by age and friendly and mature attitude. We were a small but happy community who didnt force anyone into anything and a lot of older people with families and daytime jobs joined our guild.

Then my friends and I hit the top level. The last few levels were not half as fun as the lower levels, because quests and stories didnt matter anymore. It was all about grinding massive amount of XP to hit Lv 60 and start on "the endgame".

Some guildmembers wanted us to do Molten Core and other endgame content. The pressure we were under was huge, so we recruited more people, especially people who got some decent equipment and experience and were prepared to dedicate a lot of time to "make progress".

The more of these "hardcore" players we invited into the guild, the more pressure it put on us to make further progress. It required more and more playing time to keep people happy, organise raids, solving issues between members in the guild (mostly about loot or the general loot-policy and how to "improve" it, mainly to improve it for themselves), grinding materials for the next Raid, etcetera, its all in the blog above.

I cannot recall a period after we started on MC when the atmosphere was tranquil and friendly anymore. I've realised some time ago that the more we push progress ahead because our hardcore members demand it, the further and faster we move AWAY from what we intended to be: a place for older people with families and daytime jobs, to have fun on a casual level.

My guild is now making progress in "AQ40" and "Naxx" raid-dungeons. Something was wrong but i couldnt tell what. I didnt have any fun anymore. I hardly raid anymore since a month or two. I am still online a lot to organise the agenda and do some fun stuff for myself.

After reading this blog and looking back on past year i realised:
- I graduated and got my medical degree and got a busy job after that, which requires 50-60 hours a week;
- I havent done any sports while i used to go to the gym 3 times a week;
- I havent seen my RL friends since 2 or 3 months - i blamed us living in different cities (it was never a problem before).
- Most of the time i spend behind the screen i wasnt having any fun - i was only solving guild-issues and fights.
- I must have a wonderfull girlfriend. She complained a lot about my time behind the PC and she is still with me. While i was too lazy to do any housekeeping while i was farming "rep" or "gold" she did the housekeeping, because she wanted me to rewind a bit after another day of 12 hours working.

The next thing i will do is:
- Take my girl out for dinner tonight and watch a movie;
- Yesterday, after i read this blog, i emailed my RL friends and made an appointment to go out for food and drinks next week;
- I will buy a membership card for my girl and myself for the gym further down our street.
- I will step down as officer of the guild and i will not buy the expansion. I will de-install the game.

I know there are hunderds of players, if not thousands, who can relate to this story and who probably dont even realise it. I dont blame the game, nor the creators.

I blame peer-pressure to become better and better and even the best of the best. Yes, your blog was an absolute eye-opener for me.

Anonymous said...

Your observations of this game are completely and utterly biased. This game DOES NOT require you to play as much as you list here.

I am in a fairly successful guild on my server, am the Hunter Leader and an officer of the guild, and I am a casual player. I play maybe 10-15 hours per week.

Guess what? You don't HAVE to do every available raid, every available boss, each and every week. What do you lose? You don't have the most EPIC of stuff in the shortest period of time. Well, boo hoo.

Your problem is that you allowed yourself to believe that you had to KEEP UP with everyone else in order to go anywhere in the game.

You're right, there is no way to win at this game... but what you completely forget to mention is that there is no way to lose either. If I log on this week and ONLY run AQ40... or ONLY MC, do I somehow lose the game? No. Us casual raiders still get the same shit that everyone else gets... it only takes a little longer. And number crunching, having the best of everything can have a very small impact vs. having alot of good stuff. Someone the only runs BWL so they can get one drop to increase their dps by 5 is wasting their time.

Also, your title "The View From the Top" is so egotistical that it makes me want to barf. Seriously? You think because you spent more time in this game and gathered up more "wtfpwn" epics, that you were at at the top of the game?

You know what... you weren't. Just because you were a guild officer in one of the oldest guilds on the server doesn't give you any special privledges and position over anyone else.

Get over yourself, and your anger towards the game. You did this to yourself. Alot of us can play casually, have a job, and wife, kids, and social life, and get along just fine. And guess what? Most of us feel pretty successful at the game as well. Considering you can't win... you don't have to be the best all the time. Find some balance.

Don't blame Blizzard, or guildmates, or the game, just because you couldn't find any balance in your life. Blame yourself, because you're an egotistical, self-righteous fool who acted fanatical towards the game and had no self control.

Anonymous said...

No need to quit completely. Simple rule for this game and any others in life:

Stop playing *anything* more than 2-3 hours a day.

Who cares how much time the game "requires". Newer games and expansions will only require more and more time, that is a proven business model. You don't have to fall for it, though.

All about self control. There are worse addictions out there. Also, read the book "All I need to know, I learned in Kindergarten" (the hard part is always remembering that!). Good luck to ya.

Anonymous said...

that article hits big time and it really hurt!

Anonymous said...

QQ some more. Its not Blizzards fault, your WoWs fault. Its yours for letting it control you. Its a game and you were not mature enough to stop a game from ruling your life.

Im a profesional, work 40 hours a week, and play at least 40+ hours a week of WoW without any problems. Been married for over 12 years. Still have friends and a social life.

So if you are going to place blame, place it where its due. On the person who went out, bought a video game, installed a video game, played and learned a video game, and became aware of how it worked. Then the same person let it run away and control thier life, an inanimate object, dictating when and how long they logged on.

Who is truly to blame........

Lastly Im going to question the validity of this post. "View from the top." Hmmm, of course he had the position everyone wanted, isnt that convenient? And wanted to get back to martial arts, then calling it Kung Fu? Dear god man, martial arts have a style, even styles of Kung Fu are not called Kung Fu.

It sounds to me this was a random mid guild player who didnt get all he wanted, blames WoW and Blizzard, and made this post as a way to "get back" at the video game.

Dont always believe things just because they are printed.

Anonymous said...

Good move quitting. I realised about the same things after 500+ /played days in everquest from 1999-2004. Felt like i put 5 years of my young life in the trash can.

Anonymous said...

The View From The Top....hmmmm..ok so you were the guild leader in Wow......WOW now that's something to write home about...yeah pretty impressive....yep....um hum...right...oldest and most respected guild in the world!...okayyyy....righto...sure...great story there....yepper, um hum....yeah.....ruined your life for a year.....more addictive than drugs!....umm hum....yeah...okaaay

Anonymous said...

Years ago I quit the psy-trance scene (a subdivision of the rave scene, only more hippie.) While reading this it hit me how the cultish addictiveness is the same as WoW really.

Same thing happen -- once you get into a sufficiently developed scene, it's like playing an MMORPG. As you make more and more "scene" friends, you neglect your "RL" ones and they slowly disappear. Instead of managing a guild you might eventually get into DJ'ing or party organizing.

Eventually -- perhaps after years -- you realize you are "addicted" -- and I don't mean to the drugs (that are certainly a part of it) directly. To the scene and it's structure.

If you quit, what would you do with your weekends? You gave up your other hobbies instead of hitting festivals a long time ago.

Who would you hang out with? All your friends are party friends and all you talk about are parties and drugs. The normal people abandoned you ages ago.

You look like a trancer, you feel a sense of belonging... the bar to leaving is very high.

While DJ'ing a set I once looked across the crowd at 3am and asked myself "What am I doing here? Musically augmenting the chemical self-destruction of these young people? Is me propagating this life style evil?" It's quite similar to what you can think running a guild. Leading all these people to waste their lifes basically, and wasting your own, because in RL nobody gives a shit about anything you do and you have nothing to show for it.

That was the point where I went click, and decided to bid farewell. The equivalent of uninstalling the game is just completely stopping all contact with the scene, don't go to parties, don't talk to party friends, and find something else to do with your time. Moving to a different city, or even a different country, will help. For me, going sober and getting into riding bikes was my thing. I still get my kicks but I don't burn my brains cells anymore.

Like WoW, some people never overcome the substantial barriers to quitting. Others manage to participate casually -- like only come to parties 3 hours at a time, have a spliff and go home. The equiv of being in a l33t guild would be to dance at least until the sun comes up again and keeping reloading on speed until all the chaff has gone home and you are at the party with all the hard core heads -- your family. Until 2pm or whenever they turn the sound system off. It's great. But ultimately, self-destructive.

The chemical element makes this a far more destructive scene but at least we get to work out and look at nice ass all night. The point is, learn the mechanics of cultishness and innoculate yourself against it in the future.

I'm glad mine was psy, and not WoW. Everybody should do one. If you get stuck on one forever, let Darwin do the work.

Anonymous said...

good guidline for playing mmo's

if your skipping out on friends for it your doing something wrong. I play alot but as a rule whenever anyone asks me to do anything i skip the wow time and hang out with real people. I can admit that i play wow too much, but when i start blowing off friends for a game is when i quit.

Anonymous said...

These kinds of games in my honest opinion are somewhat of a godsend. First of all to validate this let me say that anyone who loses them self in an MMO is going to lose themselves to something else one way or another. So it might as well be something not drug or crime related.

Anyway, In my days of MMOs I learned how to type like no ones business. Thats just the tip of the ice burg of what I learned.
If you walked away from an MMO without learning the value of a good work ethic, god bless your soul. Furthermore, MMOs can simulate practicing leadership skills very nicely. I know for a fact that to run a good guild/clan, you can't just play for hours and hours. You need to somehow make people follow you. Thats not easy. At all. Because everyone else in the game plays just as much as you do and has just as good items as you do so why should they follow you?

Whatever, I know almost everyone disagrees with me but I had a total playtime of an MMO that almost quadrupled his playtime. My real life is fine I have many friends. I was just out laughing and drinkin a bit with 4 good buddies of mine 15 minutes ago. My school and work are all in good shape.

Thanks guys :) peace

Anonymous said...

seriously, what you posted is true. despite the fact that i try to convey the same meaning to my ex-boyfriend. he told me he was being loyal to friends and its a kind of committment. my question would then be, what about me?

i was very busy during those period when he turned to WOW. and later when i was free, he told me, can he have his own time too?

i can only say here to all people out there is, majority of you only realised it after when you lost something or close to losing. Game is just a form of leisure, why take it seriously? it can never happened to real life. its just a fantasy and sometimes an escape in reality to others or maybe a sense of achievement that you realised you can never accomplish in life.
people, pls move on.

Anonymous said...

sorry to hear your sad story

Anonymous said...

All those stories of problems caused by WoW that effected peoples offline lives really put my coke problem into perspective....it's not nearly as lame as this.

Anonymous said...

70 days played in 1 year? We call those people addicts. Good job for quitting though.

I only play a few hours a week and have lots of fun and do just fine even on PVP. I have had my marathon days of course, but those are few and far between.

Drop out and get your life in order. Then come back when you have a more balanced outlook. Or don't, it's all good.

Anonymous said...

As a co-GM of a guild in WoW, I certainly appreciate your comments and perspective. It highlights worst of what can happen. As for me, there are 3 people (Me, Wife, Son), 3 computers, and 3 WoW accounts in our house. We are an all adult guild, who emphasizes "Real world first" in all things. Yes, there are times when I play too much, to the neglect of things that need to be done, but I then catch myself and correct the situation.
Nonetheless, I have seen this level of commitment to various aspects of the game in some I know. I know the day will come when they say to me "I'm leaving the game to deal with real life issues." and I will of course support them in this decision.
As for us, we're eagerly looking forward to the expansion, and will be there when it arrives, happily gaming our characters up to level 70, continuing to live our lives outside the game, and having fun inside the game.
Glad you reached the decision you did... Seems your life will be better for it ;)

Anonymous said...

One kind of funny thing was that the first thing you did after pulling through a video game "escapist" binge, was go watch a movie..... a movie... yet another form of escapism.

It's been said before, but I think the issue of personal responsibility is much more important than the object that you were so addicted to.

Anything in this world can be an addiction, and, honestly, anything in this world is more or less escapism, except for work, which you go to so you can buy things to help you escape, things that will keep you entertained. That's sort of the hook of a post industrial society. We all just live together trying to have fun with friends and escape the doldrums of life. There's no difference between anything anyone does to "have fun" and a video game. It's just choosing what you like to do. The only thing that really matters is the amount of self control you have.

I dunno, my point is the post felt a little like... well like you were trying to convince yourself you were a victim of somekind. I just wanted to bring up the point that... well... you weren't. Good luck with "life" and the other distractions you've chosen.

Anonymous said...

Fuckin A, I have been meaning to stop Playing for a long time now. But the addiction is so strong, I have 4 lvl 60's the least geared is my 8/8 Tier 1 Mage. WoW has destroyed my life I play at work and I play nonstop. I play WoW and procrastinate my priorities cause I need to grind rep or do raids. I have put off people, my life, education and all the important things in life like my son just to get more epics an dbetter gear for my charactors.
I am soaddicted though quitting is going to be hard I havent stepped away from the game for 1 year 2 months now Ive been playing nonstop. Not necessarily after reading your post made me want to quit I have always wanted to. But I think I have dfinally found out why I am so addicted, its because I wanted to escape everything negative in my life and the game brings me happiness. But in reality, all these negative things I think I am seeing and feeling are because I play WoW too much and slack off on priorities. If I quit WoW I can fix all my fuckups or make things normal again where I wont feel like I have to run to my video game to feel better. WoW is truly like a stimulant. It has its ups and downs. But in the end you get nowhere cause WoW wont pay your bills or put a roof over your head. The time I spend playing WoW I could be out making money or getting a 2nd job or finding ways to get ahead in life. I know a lot of people that play 18 hours a day like me. I know someday they will find themselves and realize that playing WoW taught them some good abilities they can use after they stop WoW. But the main thing WoW has taught me, is to not get so wrapped up in something so addictive that it destroys everything true and honest I had before WoW. I have been blinded with the prospect of getting epics that I will stay up all night and play and put off my family and friends. Now its time to take control of my life and grab the reigns and not let a video game dominate my life. Its time to come to reality, I am abandoning all play time, even when I get completely bored and have nothing else to do I wont attempt to reinstall and download the patches. It will be hard to do its like a heroin addiction. It grabs a hold of you and your life.
The only person that can stop it is you. Do the right thing and quit while you can before you completely ruin everything you have and regret that you could have saved it earlier. I have lost so much through my addiction to WoW its going to take a long time to repair the damaged lifestyle I now have.
Take a long look at yourself and get a grip while u still can its not to late to quit WoW now before you hit rock bottom.

P. Shavaun Scott said...

My name is Shavaun Scott, aka: Evanor the Elven Elder from Lineage2. I am also a psychotherapist making a documentary film on MMORPGs. The goal is to educate about all aspects of the online gaming process from a non-judgmental stance, with the ultimate hope that people will develop skills in self-monitoring, reflection, and self-regulation. I was a compulsive player who walked away from the game after a crisis, and have since been fascinated with studying the psychological as well as technological processes of play and players. We've interviewed Nick Yee, Neils Clark, RV Kelly, game developers, and of course, players of all ages/genders. My husband and I continue to play a few games, just a few hours a week. I would love the opportunity to have a dialogue with you and your friend as you both speak the truth with clarity and balance. Please Feel free to check out my blog here, darkcaveproductions, where I write as "Evanor".
Be well, Shavaun

Anonymous said...

QQ more...

Anonymous said...

You're a big fvckin pu55y you whiny b!tch. Addicted to a video game! I've played EQ (since '99) and WoW since release. Hai, listen up fattie, here is a bit of advice... Too much of anything is bad. Glad your got your degree but its mostly for not since you are so fvcking dumb you got "addicted" to WoW.

Hey, here's an idea you can wrap your hands (when you do not have some sort of fried food in them) and mind around... Don't wanna get fat? Stop eating so fvcking much, piggie. Oh, what do you say? You do not want liver cancer?! Well! Don't drink so fvcking much! Lung cancer!?! WTFCAKES! Don't smoke!? Genious! Don't want a sore back, wrist and be tired as fvck for work everyday?! Then don't stay up all night playing a video game idiot! Does not take a college degree to have common sense.

Blizzard has crap to do with this, its morons like you that are the problem. If you take a video game to the point where you are making people's lives better.... HAHA, ROFL, I srsly can't stop laughing IRL. I want the time spent reading this put back on store credit with Jesus and his holy LOLLERSKATES.

In closing a few terms you should live by from me to you our kind, chubby, poster... /diaf /QQmore /reroll IRL...

Downward
60 Shadow Priest Gul'Dan

Anonymous said...

i guess my idea is to say that.. knowing your priorities is important and.. thanks to WOW, a very good life example made people realised what is truely life.

Anonymous said...

GREAT read. I've realized the true design of WoW and decided to quit too. I just can't play a game unless it can be beaten. There comes a time when something needs to be set aside so we can move on.

Anonymous said...

What an amazing story. My husband is addicted to EverCrack and I believe he is beyond help. He is gone ten hours a day for work (two hours of commuting plus the eight hour day). When he walks in the door, his pattern is exactly the same: say hello, change into sweats or whatever, grab a beer, pull up the EC bookmarks and get started. He checks all the e-mails or posts or whatever, then fires up the game and gets started. He eats dinner in front of the computer and doesn't come to bed until midnight at the earliest. On weekends, it's worse. My daughter and I have given up trying to reason with him. We've suggested he go to counseling, even offering to attend with him. We've printed out countless articles and blogs on EverCrack addiction - he refuses to read them. Worse still, if one of us has the audacity to interrupt him while he's gaming, he will throw a temper tantrum of sorts. (Keep in mind this is a grown man we're talking about here.) And the truly heartbreaking part is that our daughter literally hates him. I never ever thought a computer game could cause so much pain, but here it is. My daughter is ashamed to have her friends come over because they can't figure out why her dad spends all of his free time in front of the computer. Requests for simple favors (to be dropped off at the mall or picked up from a friend's house) are met with heavy sighs and resistance because they almost always interfere with his "raids". What my husband doesn't seem to realize is that in two years, she will be in college and I will be out the door. Amidst his alternate reality, I am working hard at my job and raising our daughter single-handedly. I have completely curbed my spending so that any leftover money I had budgeted for my "extras" now goes into a savings account. When my daughter has graduated and moves into her dorm, I am packing my things and moving into my own apartment. Additionally, almost two years ago my husband bought me a laptop as a gift because he was always on the PC playing EverCrack. Then about two days later he "borrowed" it for a business trip and never returned it. He travels much of time and takes my (or I guess his now) laptop along for the ride so he doesn't have to stop playing. But fear not - he has announced that he can return my dusty, two-year-old laptop to me because his work laptop broke and the one he is buying has all the gaming and video needs that will support EverCrack. Initially I felt guilty for planning my escape. But the reality is that he has already escaped; my daughter and I are just sort of background noise. I truly believe he just enjoys the thought of having people in the house while he's playing (or people to continue to cook his meals and take care of the day-to-day chores of family life). But after telling him all of this, and telling him that I am leaving soon, and that his daughter is hurt by his actions, he still continues to play. In the meantime, my daughter and I remain close. We do activities together daily and invite my husband to come along each time (he always refuses). We've gotten so used to living life without him that I honestly believe that my transition to "the single life" will be much less painful when it actually happens. The only reason I'm even still living here is because my daughter doesn't want to change schools in the middle of high school and I can't afford to stay in our neighborhood on my income alone. So congratulations to EverCrack. You've succeeded in turning my husband into one of your minions. Keep him. I'm driving my daughter to the mall.

Anonymous said...

Typical american blame culture, 'ooh ooh, it's all blizzard's fault I got fat and lost my girlfriend'....

Yeah, of course it is, keep dreaming that it's someone elses fault and maybe one day it will be....

Anonymous said...

It's for nearly the same reasons I quit Anarchy Online.

I looked at my /played, and thought, "At $9 an hour, for about 60 days of play... that's $13,000 I could have put in my pocket by working another job. At $12 an hour, that's seventeen grand before taxes."

After all, wtF am I gonna do with 50 million credits?

Anonymous said...

sure u cane get addicted but thaths with manny things... u have to be carful specialy with wow...

first thing is to find a good guild

if u pick a HARD CORE RAIDING GUILD
its 95% u get adicted and play every hour u got...


but u cane also choose for a non raiding guild like i did...

it took me about an year to get

1 hunter lvl 60
1 paladin lvl 60
1 mage lvl 39

but i only play 1/2 hours a day and somtimes even few days not..

sure its fun to get epic loot but its not all the game is about having fun. my gear is just simpely

class gear lvl 1 from the easyer instance


good way to not get adicted to good loot is just go an instance 1 time a week our somting if posible in the weekend our somting

Anonymous said...

Ow boy, self control little grass hopper, self control! :)

Anonymous said...

It's amazing the number of people that reply to a post like this and flame the original poster. The "interpretation" of the original words. "Oh you made the choice, you suck, get on with it". Sometimes folks, a banana is just a banana. Yes the games is addicting. It's a game. It can be more if you let it. If you feel that your so much better because of whatever reason, good for you! Let's make a post where I go to Dictionary.com and use the most brilliant impacting dribble that I can regurgitate to try and make myself sound witty....Oh I have to go, the coffe shop is having a reading today.

Anonymous said...

Talking about a video game this much is even more sad than playing WoW. You all are probably ugly fat people that have nothing eles to do in life. Try going out and making money than playing a video game. This company that makes it is just playing you people as fools that will pay to play a time sinking game. They don't care about you, they want your money. What a brilliant company it is.. Feeding off all your weakness and attention. This world is going to shit real soon because of idiots that play a video game for over 20 minutes a day. You all should just do the world a favor and go shoot yourself. Cause weak people aren't supose to survive.

Anonymous said...

PLEASE READ. I make no evil comments and make fun of no one in my post.

"Blizzard has created an alternate universe where we don't have to be ourselves when we don't want to be."

Blizzard made a game. It can be hard for people to be themselves "in the open" so-to-speak. So, this can be nice for some people to learn ways to try to be more themselves. I don't agree that Blizzard made WoW to play psychological games with people. This game is way in-depth to be noted as only being for this reason.

On a side note, this has allowed my Husband and I to save more money this way. When normally we would spend so much to buy games we could complete in the matter of a couple to a few weeks.

I think it's sad that families, friends, work, and lives in general fall apart because people get sucked into games. But, thats just it. If you see that you are that type of person then stay away from them. Get help. This is no different then if you were diagnosed as being alcohol dependant. If you are then you just are.

I play WoW myself. I'm in the military and I have a husband and several animals that we take care of. I too am in a very large end game raiding guild. I spend time with friends and get out as much as life allows me to.

What I would recommend to people is to take breaks. When you find yourself becoming angry at a game then it is no longer fun. If you see that you are slacking off on other things then limit yourself. Use a clock or a timer if you need to. There is no harm in doing this and it's no different then using a calendar to keep track of events. If you know that you have a deadline or that you have a big day the next day and need plenty of rest then don't hop on WoW. You'll get in there and always find "something else to do."

It's not fair to say it's the games fault or Blizzards fault or any other game or gamemakers fault out there. I don't want games to be taken away because people can't control themseleves or won't get help. It's too easy to blame something or someone for "your" actions.

Anonymous said...

"Talking about a video game this much is even more sad than playing WoW. You all are probably ugly fat people that have nothing eles to do in life. Try going out and making money than playing a video game. This company that makes it is just playing you people as fools that will pay to play a time sinking game. They don't care about you, they want your money. What a brilliant company it is.. Feeding off all your weakness and attention. This world is going to shit real soon because of idiots that play a video game for over 20 minutes a day. You all should just do the world a favor and go shoot yourself. Cause weak people aren't supose to survive."

They may be ugly and fat, but at least they can compose proper and grammatically correct sentences. I don't think the world is going to hell because of video gamers. I actually think it's more because of stupid people. You just want the smart people to shoot themselves first so you'd know how to properly use the gun, right?

Anonymous said...

I am writing this comment without any edits and letting my thoughts flow into this post. If there are an over-abundance of typos, grammatical errors, or redundance in what I write; I apologize in advance.
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I completely understand what the author had written. I was actually in the best shape of my life and (dare I say) was addicted to excercise. I was loving life and ready to finish my undergrad years and move on to graduate school or get a job. A friend of mine had was playing this game and I eventually decided to play it as well, despite his warnings. If I make sure to play this game when I'm bored and have free time, what's the harm in that? Nearly a year later: I'm about 20 pounds heavier with the loss of muscle, My normally well-groomed hair now hangs below my shoulders, my sex life has turned to something resembling priesthood, I was dismissed from school for failing grades, I am unemployed, and worst of all, I have left the real world as it passes me by without so much as a notice. I live in a college town away from my parents and I lie to them each time about attending school and a job. I am in debt and wondering how I am going to pay my rent and bills for this month. My apartment has no furniture but for a bed, television, and my precious computer. My apartment is covered in trash from countless takeout food and clothes in horrible need of washing. I don't allow anyone into my apartment and am hoping maintanence does not stop by to check on my apartment in fear of being embarressed. I am an in-the-closest WoW addict.

I have played WoW since last December and am co-GM and class leader of a big guild in my server. Each day, I go over guild issues, answer messages from applicants, members, officers, while making sure to farm, raid, twink, and have my so-called "fun with pvp". I'm known to be a great PvPer on my server. Was I proud of that? Unfortunately, I was. I keep telling myself that I will go work out the next day. "Tomorrow is going to be when I slow down on WoW" "After I get so-and-so drop, I'll reduce my raiding to 2-3 times a week." It never happens. If there is a day or two where a friend drags me out to do something, I'll be motivated to do other stuff until I come back home and the WoW icon on my desktop beckons for the double-click. "Let me just sign on to check on something at the auction house." "I hope nothing in my mailbox is about to expire." The 1 minute checkup turns into an instance, PvP, battleground, or even worse, hours of running around Orgrimmar/Durotar/STV doing absolutely nothing. Hours of sitting in front of your computer pressing the keys (w,a,s,d) is a good way to say how WoW time is spent many times.

Currently, I'm looking for any part-time job, figuring out a way to get back in my college, and wondering how I'm going to get my life back in track. These things are what I want to do but I still play WoW. I had it on my monitor not even half an hour before I had read this post. I think reading this post has pushed me to decide on quitting this game. I have damaged my life and goals by being addicted to this game. Perhaps, the impact of these games shows the horrible state that our generation is in. We need to figure out our own lives in order to prevent these addictions from occuring. I'm not displacing my own faults on others; however, I strongly stress the damaging nature of this game on our fragil society.
"This game doesn't force you to do anything you don't want." You have every right and power to simply quit the game." Things don't seem to be that simple and statistics and the facts laid out to everyone should be evidence enough to where wow players (as well as those who are not involved in this game) be made aware of this "cyber-drug". Playing this game has not only hurt me, but my family and friends as well. It hurts me to think of the countless opportunities I will be unable to come across due to my affair with this drug. I only pray that it's not too late for me.

Anonymous said...

To bad this can't really apply to people like me. Since I'm homeschooled finish my school in a couple of hours get good grades having no friends since you've been homeschooled 7 years of your life... forced into that small prision playing MMOs is what sets me free... Meh go firgures...

Anonymous said...

I just wanted to say that I read through here and have to agree with the author. I'm not a "cold turkey" WoW'er, but that's probably because I've been addicted to several things before...some of them even sillier than a game that actually does provide social interaction and a sense of accomplishment, so I began my WoW career with full knowledge of the fact that I get addicted to my hobbies....

....and then got addicted. It took a smaller slap in the face than this one, but it did take a slap in the face to realize it, also somewhat biblical in nature. It came when I looked at a friend who was one of those "70+ hours per week" players and was about to say something about his addiction...all we ever talked about, whether in person or online, was WoW, even when he was taking a break (and often, he'd be playing while we were talking)...and then I shut my mouth and said to myself "Plank out of your own eye first".

I still play. And I'm the guild leader of our little circle of friends, which we're keeping small. I'm proud to say I spend perhaps 15 hours a week in-game, though, and perhaps another 5 online organizing things. 20 hours a week isn't bad for a hobby, after all. I don't keep firm tabs on it, though. I have other people around me in real life to do that for me, and every time I sit down, I ask myself "Is a video game where I really want to be right now?" before logging on.

And honestly, there are days when I wish I'd quit instead, but overall, I'm still enjoying it as a pastime.

Anonymous said...

you can't just give up on the world.... of warcraft

Anonymous said...

WOW is dangerous for people who haven´t their personalities defined yet.
You end up discarting all your dreams and aspirations if you don´t have life experience to produce them.

Anonymous said...

I,a college student, started playing wow in April of 2006 at the request of 3 of my freinds. After failing two of my classes, losing the best girl I ever met (due to constant lying to her that I was working on "papers" when really I was grinding up my shaman), finally realizing after 2 months that I was playing 15 hours a day, I quit. This guy knows what he is talking about its all true.

Sadly, with stress with school again, I have started playing again....

I found the way back to my girl and she took me back, but she has told me she won't be there again if I fall off the deep end with WoW. I keep trying to keep it in Moderation, but its like alcholism, just one drop starts your engine and you need more. I'm failing multiple classes now, quitting the cross country team, failing at being the President of my college's Student Government, and others... I don't blame blizzard (even though it is like tobacco companies). I blame myself for being so needy and stupid...

Hope you stay clean man...

/salute
/agree

Anonymous said...

Dear gamers, bloggers, and others,

For what it's worth, I'm adding my voice to the chorus of praise for this post. I suffer from a sometimes overwhelming compulsion to play computer games in general - a condition I've experienced since 1975.

Some of the commenters have suggested that a compusion such as this has a moral component, and have stated that a person in the throes of the compulsion lacks some key character trait or strength of will.

While I sympathize with those who are baffled or angry in response to other people's compulsive behaviors, I frankly find such comments to be of no particular clinical or diagnostic value. In fact, I would go so far as to say that such comments are actively counter-productive to the effective treatment of this condition.

A compulsion, like other habituated behavior, is symptomatic of our biochemical wiring. At least some of this wiring is genetically determined, and some is affected by our environment.

But ultimately the various causes or origins of these architectural changes in our brain chemistry and structure aren't particularly relevant to treatment, nor are they resolved by any appeal to willpower or moral character.

At some level, the decision to turn on a game is a matter of choice, it is an act that one is conscious of making, and it is possible (though difficult) to consciously choose not to turn on the game. But at another level, the brain is so habituated to the choice that observable changes in brain chemisty (per MRI imaging) make a mockery of the meaning of "choice." It is no longer a "choice" in any meaningful sense if a flood of dopamine and endorphines have hard-set certain neural pathways in the game-player's brain.

I don't know if people will slog through the comments to read this, but for those who do and who need help, please take some comfort from the fact that psychiatric treatment of compulsive behavior has advanced by leaps and bounds over the last few years.

Functional changes associated with compulsive behaviors are often tied to other conditions such as ADHD, depression, anxiety disorders, somatic disorders, and other conditions that can be debilitating. But all these conditions are treatable.

For me, a combination of a popular anti-depressant and a stimulant (for treatment of the ADHD components of my compulsion) have done wonders, but only in combination with traditional psychiatric talk therapy.

Anonymous said...

Your responsebilitys to the community (Your kids, wife, parents, friends etc,) should be your priority. WoW should be a fun thing to do, not an obligation.

WoW lost his freedom. Its to much focused on grinding these days. I now have fun making an alt with some friends, we boots each other through instance, are doing arena battles or I just do some quests by myself. I'm free. I can do what I wan't. And that is how te game should be played.

And you know what is great? You can just a hang out with your friends. No more ''sorry I got a raid to attend''

English is not my native language and I'm sorry for any grammer mistakes.

Anonymous said...

I posted the link to this article on my guilds forum:

The comments came fast.

"thanks for the link, it made me think"

"It made me skip tonites raid, and hang out with the wife"

Personally ive played way to much aswell, been close to quitting several times, but i allways seem to find a balance. I dont want to quit, but the day my wife says its enough, it really is.

Good reading, thank u for sharing

Anonymous said...

I am 64 years old. I played wow for the last 2 years of my life, logging in over 185 hours. My wife left a year ago. She divorced me because of the game. I didn't care, I had my pretty electronic fix. I played Wow so much that I got a blood clot in my leg. I got up from playing one day and it ended up travelling to my heart and giving me a heart attack. I called 9-11 and they saved my life, but my heart only works at 30 percent now. I can't walk anymore. I wish I could have those two years back, and my wife. I'd go on a hike, or take her to dinner, instead of sit at the stupid screen. I have no RL friends after that two years. I only have 6 months to live, they say. I am so lonely. Curse the day I picked up Wow.

Anonymous said...

gratz on the "good-bye" u could say. but i was just wondering , why did u take u 70 hours of playing time to decide to quit, right now ive played about 18 and not thinking about stopping. but i get good grades and do well in sports, so i could say its just another good hobbies of mine.

Anonymous said...

To the anon. who said your grades don't matter and your college doesn't either, then you have something comming. Grades DO matter and college DOES matter. You can't get by in life and expect to be successful if you don't give an effort in school, I'm sorry but it doesn't work that way. Good story, shows points, I indeed spend too much time on the game but I've met someone on there that sucked me into it and she is one of the only reasons I still play. Good luck with your life =).

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